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Making my saxo 1.1 faster.
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I've got a 1100 engine.. I can do like 25mph in gear 1 45mph - Gear 2 60Mph - gear 3 70mph - gear 4 75+mph - gear 5 is this doing sserious harm to my engine.. I'm lettig my engine warm up first before i rev it high.. I have a mk1.. with no rev counter so what sort of revs are they :S Its R reg, hit exatly 70K miles.. Engine been looked after weekly too. Now.. Are there any mods rather then an induction kit and a sports exhaust that will make the aceleration quciker? (I can keep up easily with a 1.4 astra.) |
i always let my engine warm up before i go over 2 rpm do you redline it or something ? i wouldnt do that it wears down the internal parts of the engine am i correct ?
mod wise iver read better manifold induction kit or what ever its called and a full system,other than that a vtr/s lump,would stripping it out be included ? lower it,better suspension etc. correct me if im wrong,people with better engine knowledge |
yer thats about right m8, in my 1.1 i get,
1st - 30 2nd - 55 3rd - 74 4th - 98 5th - 113 i manage to keep up if not beat most my friends and they got 1.2 ka, 1.4 hyundai, 1.3 micra, 1.4 206, 1.25 fiesta. |
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As long as you let your engine warm up and its well serviced you should be fine. Without spending a significance amount of cash on the car you will not see much at all in power gains. If you absolutely want to stay with the same car a engine swap would most likely be the best value. You can pick up good 1.4s for next to nothing if you look about. Though to fit it your self take a fair bit of know how and paying some one to do it really would not be worth it.
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Tbh theres not alot for performance you can do to a 1.1 thats cost effective, when conversions are cheap and easy enough to do.
Do a search though mate, its been covered many times Also look here - http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=162204 |
yer my induction kit dosent really help me alot, iv had so many different ones in and none of them seem to make a difference, just a different sound. and my exhaust seems to help me out more top end then beggining, ul jus have to look into what ur buying in more detail.
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Well serviced -Well i check the water, oil, coolent, brake fluid and the hole where the's oil on the rocker cover (to put oil in.. i actually don't know what its called) but i check that for gunk, if so car has had it. Anyother ways i can service it But i always let my car warm up, its due for a cam belt change as its hit 70K. I let it warm up for about 5 or 10 mins first. I would say i do red line it, infact more then red line it.. Bad i know but sometimes you can feel the accelerator pedal shake when the revs are too high.. I must admit though.. the 1.1's are good when you get the revs up.. i like over taking in a 30 zone in 2nd gear :P I don't plan to stip it or stick any induction kit (just guzzel more fuel). I would want a exhaust for sound purposes, and i am deffo going to get it lowered. i was thinking of like a chip you can buy from ebay that add's better pedal responce, my car is ALOT nipper at night time when its cooler :S. Also.. How can a 4-2-1 manafold help? Like dosn't the default saxo manifold do that or is it 4 pipes into the exhaust? |
save up 4 a conversion. dont piss about wating money on a 1100
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as above really mate its going to cost a lot to get massive gans from a 1.1
i would save the money and then look to upgrade your car once you have the monies, conversion is an option but you WOULD have to change the rear brakes etc and it would most likely be easier and cheaper just to by a VTR or S. whichever takes your fancy. |
so you all rag the shit out of your cars
well done |
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that sounds fine mate, i do about that on quite roads when its safe, and mine has a rev counter
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in my 1.1 i got 30 in first, 55 in second, 80 in 3rd 105 in 4th and 110 in 5th lol to b fair save up so you can buy a westcoast or furio and spend money modin that as there is no point in moddin a 1.1 tbh
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obviously not :S
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mine used to be quite nippy
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You don't want an induction kit, as it would waste too much petrol? If you want to save on petrol, stop redlining it everywhere! :wall: But a 4-2-1ou manifold would help yes. But the amount of money you are going to spend to make it remotely quick, you might as well sell your car, and buy a VTR/S :y: |
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mine was pretty good could keep up with my mates (lee_vtr1) vtr only lost him after about 60 and in corners it was very good best be with a 1.1 is remove all unessecary parts and i mean ALL like you dont legally need a third brake light (if its there it has to function if not it doesnt matter) so little tings like that you soon save a lot of weight and gain a fair bit of performance |
the 1.1s are nippy cos their lightweight, with short ratios..
not understanding where people are getting 113mph from a standard 1.1 tho tbh, even citroen state its 102.. (down a hill maybe) plus the 1.1 would never get to 113 on track since it would take about a year so where did you get this figure what the clock shows is not the true speed also |
Wind behind us? I believ the speedo is 10% out on all cars, so if you were ding 113mph you'r really doing 10% less the that, 101.7 ?
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not quite 10%, i know at 70 its 3mph out as someone had a gps tracker test a while ago on here i belive.. or 106owners...
but the 1.1 clocks only go to 110? |
Well they go up to 115MPH.. and a big clock next to it :D
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my 1.1 only foes a ton.. 113mph bollocks. unless turbo ' d
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no a turbo 1.1 would be quicker my dear friend, tbh its people telling porkies and or its not a straight road... down hill etc... but as i stated, it would take far to long to get to top end in a 1.1 any way so where have they been doing this, certainly not on track...
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i dont think the speedos are out that much tbh
if it was then we would be doing about 8mph standing still according to the dials, but it sits on 0 on my car at least, even had my road angel on and there just about right, it also has a lot to do with tyre size etc |
ive had 108 out of my 1.1 and it took a while. got decat exhuast n a filter.
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tom toms, road angels, their not propper gps timing equipment
even so , 0-20 its about right, then 30-50 it starts to drop 1/2mph behind what the clocks state.. etc etc really need to find that link, cant remember if it was on here, ssc, 106oc, or rr |
oh yeah my old 1.1 used to crack 120 when it wanted to work on track at oulton park
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1.1i 5 door, that was nippy! Loved that car!
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Lol i cant believe what some of you do to your cars, 55 in 2nd. 1.1's going 115. I only done about 80 in my VTR down motorway, most of the time thou just stick to 70.
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i gotta 1.4 westcoast and i can only get that to about 100 on motorways, HOW THE HELL do you get 113 out of a 1.1!!!???
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Very scary when you consider your only sitting in a car with a 2* Saftey rating (First thing that i thought anyway) |
not a saxo but my lil 1.2 clio(96) had a 4 speed box and used to do 64 in second and could get about117 tops, i thought the clocks were miles out so i got my m8 to follow in his vectra and they were nr perfect
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Lads.. a 115mph? No chance.
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I did have a turbo on mine hence speed old 1.1 mpi rarely went over 100 in that on track
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