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dannyboy2005 11th September 2008 22:52

Making my saxo 1.1 faster.
 
Right.

I've got a 1100 engine.. I can do like

25mph in gear 1
45mph - Gear 2
60Mph - gear 3
70mph - gear 4
75+mph - gear 5

is this doing sserious harm to my engine.. I'm lettig my engine warm up first before i rev it high.. I have a mk1.. with no rev counter so what sort of revs are they :S

Its R reg, hit exatly 70K miles.. Engine been looked after weekly too.

Now.. Are there any mods rather then an induction kit and a sports exhaust that will make the aceleration quciker?

(I can keep up easily with a 1.4 astra.)

Prickle 11th September 2008 22:57

i always let my engine warm up before i go over 2 rpm do you redline it or something ? i wouldnt do that it wears down the internal parts of the engine am i correct ?

mod wise iver read better manifold induction kit or what ever its called and a full system,other than that a vtr/s lump,would stripping it out be included ? lower it,better suspension etc.

correct me if im wrong,people with better engine knowledge

jp256 11th September 2008 23:00

yer thats about right m8, in my 1.1 i get,
1st - 30
2nd - 55
3rd - 74
4th - 98
5th - 113

i manage to keep up if not beat most my friends and they got 1.2 ka, 1.4 hyundai, 1.3 micra, 1.4 206, 1.25 fiesta.

Prickle 11th September 2008 23:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by jp256 (Post 2510954)
yer thats about right m8, in my 1.1 i get,
1st - 30
2nd - 55
3rd - 74
4th - 98
5th - 113


i manage to keep up if not beat most my friends and they got 1.2 ka, 1.4 hyundai, 1.3 micra, 1.4 206, 1.25 fiesta.

i was thinking about that too:A:

AXracing 11th September 2008 23:02

As long as you let your engine warm up and its well serviced you should be fine. Without spending a significance amount of cash on the car you will not see much at all in power gains. If you absolutely want to stay with the same car a engine swap would most likely be the best value. You can pick up good 1.4s for next to nothing if you look about. Though to fit it your self take a fair bit of know how and paying some one to do it really would not be worth it.

Marshy 11th September 2008 23:04

Tbh theres not alot for performance you can do to a 1.1 thats cost effective, when conversions are cheap and easy enough to do.

Do a search though mate, its been covered many times

Also look here - http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=162204

jp256 11th September 2008 23:05

yer my induction kit dosent really help me alot, iv had so many different ones in and none of them seem to make a difference, just a different sound. and my exhaust seems to help me out more top end then beggining, ul jus have to look into what ur buying in more detail.

dannyboy2005 12th September 2008 18:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by AXracing (Post 2510966)
As long as you let your engine warm up and its well serviced you should be fine. Without spending a significance amount of cash on the car you will not see much at all in power gains. If you absolutely want to stay with the same car a engine swap would most likely be the best value. You can pick up good 1.4s for next to nothing if you look about. Though to fit it your self take a fair bit of know how and paying some one to do it really would not be worth it.


Well serviced -Well i check the water, oil, coolent, brake fluid and the hole where the's oil on the rocker cover (to put oil in.. i actually don't know what its called) but i check that for gunk, if so car has had it. Anyother ways i can service it

But i always let my car warm up, its due for a cam belt change as its hit 70K. I let it warm up for about 5 or 10 mins first. I would say i do red line it, infact more then red line it.. Bad i know but sometimes you can feel the accelerator pedal shake when the revs are too high.. I must admit though.. the 1.1's are good when you get the revs up.. i like over taking in a 30 zone in 2nd gear :P

I don't plan to stip it or stick any induction kit (just guzzel more fuel). I would want a exhaust for sound purposes, and i am deffo going to get it lowered. i was thinking of like a chip you can buy from ebay that add's better pedal responce, my car is ALOT nipper at night time when its cooler :S.

Also.. How can a 4-2-1 manafold help? Like dosn't the default saxo manifold do that or is it 4 pipes into the exhaust?

chrissteele 19th September 2008 21:49

save up 4 a conversion. dont piss about wating money on a 1100

Dez 19th September 2008 21:55

as above really mate its going to cost a lot to get massive gans from a 1.1

i would save the money and then look to upgrade your car once you have the monies, conversion is an option but you WOULD have to change the rear brakes etc and it would most likely be easier and cheaper just to by a VTR or S. whichever takes your fancy.

JimoVTR 19th September 2008 21:56

so you all rag the shit out of your cars

well done

Mochachino 19th September 2008 22:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by dannyboy2005 (Post 2513078)
Well serviced -Well i check the water, oil, coolent, brake fluid and the hole where the's oil on the rocker cover (to put oil in.. i actually don't know what its called) but i check that for gunk, if so car has had it. Anyother ways i can service it

But i always let my car warm up, its due for a cam belt change as its hit 70K. I let it warm up for about 5 or 10 mins first. I would say i do red line it, infact more then red line it.. Bad i know but sometimes you can feel the accelerator pedal shake when the revs are too high.. I must admit though.. the 1.1's are good when you get the revs up.. i like over taking in a 30 zone in 2nd gear :P

I don't plan to stip it or stick any induction kit (just guzzel more fuel). I would want a exhaust for sound purposes, and i am deffo going to get it lowered. i was thinking of like a chip you can buy from ebay that add's better pedal responce, my car is ALOT nipper at night time when its cooler :S.

Also.. How can a 4-2-1 manafold help? Like dosn't the default saxo manifold do that or is it 4 pipes into the exhaust?

lmao shammeeeee

wigansaxo 19th September 2008 23:50

that sounds fine mate, i do about that on quite roads when its safe, and mine has a rev counter

gojka 20th September 2008 01:05

in my 1.1 i got 30 in first, 55 in second, 80 in 3rd 105 in 4th and 110 in 5th lol to b fair save up so you can buy a westcoast or furio and spend money modin that as there is no point in moddin a 1.1 tbh

wigansaxo 20th September 2008 01:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by gojka (Post 2535388)
in my 1.1 i got 30 in first, 55 in second, 80 in 3rd 105 in 4th and 110 in 5th lol to b fair save up so you can buy a westcoast or furio and spend money modin that as there is no point in moddin a 1.1 tbh

105 in 4th? did it blow up by any chance lol

Prickle 20th September 2008 23:26

obviously not :S

Sophia_Bush 21st September 2008 00:36

mine used to be quite nippy

EckMcMann 21st September 2008 11:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by dannyboy2005 (Post 2513078)
Well serviced -Well i check the water, oil, coolent, brake fluid and the hole where the's oil on the rocker cover (to put oil in.. i actually don't know what its called) but i check that for gunk, if so car has had it. Anyother ways i can service it

But i always let my car warm up, its due for a cam belt change as its hit 70K. I let it warm up for about 5 or 10 mins first. I would say i do red line it, infact more then red line it.. Bad i know but sometimes you can feel the accelerator pedal shake when the revs are too high.. I must admit though.. the 1.1's are good when you get the revs up.. i like over taking in a 30 zone in 2nd gear :P

I don't plan to stip it or stick any induction kit (just guzzel more fuel). I would want a exhaust for sound purposes, and i am deffo going to get it lowered. i was thinking of like a chip you can buy from ebay that add's better pedal responce, my car is ALOT nipper at night time when its cooler :S.

Also.. How can a 4-2-1 manafold help? Like dosn't the default saxo manifold do that or is it 4 pipes into the exhaust?


You don't want an induction kit, as it would waste too much petrol? If you want to save on petrol, stop redlining it everywhere! :wall: But a 4-2-1ou manifold would help yes. But the amount of money you are going to spend to make it remotely quick, you might as well sell your car, and buy a VTR/S :y:

AlexB 21st September 2008 17:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sophia_Bush (Post 2537341)
mine used to be quite nippy

haha gav yours was probably very nippy!!

mine was pretty good could keep up with my mates (lee_vtr1) vtr only lost him after about 60
and in corners it was very good

best be with a 1.1 is remove all unessecary parts
and i mean ALL
like you dont legally need a third brake light (if its there it has to function if not it doesnt matter) so little tings like that
you soon save a lot of weight
and gain a fair bit of performance

AdamH 21st September 2008 18:36

the 1.1s are nippy cos their lightweight, with short ratios..

not understanding where people are getting 113mph from a standard 1.1 tho tbh, even citroen state its 102.. (down a hill maybe)

plus the 1.1 would never get to 113 on track since it would take about a year so where did you get this figure


what the clock shows is not the true speed also

dannyboy2005 21st September 2008 18:47

Wind behind us? I believ the speedo is 10% out on all cars, so if you were ding 113mph you'r really doing 10% less the that, 101.7 ?

AdamH 21st September 2008 18:53

not quite 10%, i know at 70 its 3mph out as someone had a gps tracker test a while ago on here i belive.. or 106owners...

but the 1.1 clocks only go to 110?

dannyboy2005 21st September 2008 19:00

Well they go up to 115MPH.. and a big clock next to it :D

moxy89 21st September 2008 19:02

my 1.1 only foes a ton.. 113mph bollocks. unless turbo ' d

AdamH 22nd September 2008 15:32

no a turbo 1.1 would be quicker my dear friend, tbh its people telling porkies and or its not a straight road... down hill etc... but as i stated, it would take far to long to get to top end in a 1.1 any way so where have they been doing this, certainly not on track...

Predator_R32 22nd September 2008 15:37

i dont think the speedos are out that much tbh

if it was then we would be doing about 8mph standing still according to the dials, but it sits on 0 on my car at least, even had my road angel on and there just about right, it also has a lot to do with tyre size etc

saxo_bigbass 22nd September 2008 15:37

ive had 108 out of my 1.1 and it took a while. got decat exhuast n a filter.

AdamH 22nd September 2008 17:05

tom toms, road angels, their not propper gps timing equipment

even so , 0-20 its about right, then 30-50 it starts to drop 1/2mph behind what the clocks state..

etc etc really need to find that link, cant remember if it was on here, ssc, 106oc, or rr

Sophia_Bush 22nd September 2008 18:59

oh yeah my old 1.1 used to crack 120 when it wanted to work on track at oulton park

AM4R 22nd September 2008 19:02

1.1i 5 door, that was nippy! Loved that car!

CoolC 22nd September 2008 19:19

Lol i cant believe what some of you do to your cars, 55 in 2nd. 1.1's going 115. I only done about 80 in my VTR down motorway, most of the time thou just stick to 70.

wowoo 18th January 2009 21:57

i gotta 1.4 westcoast and i can only get that to about 100 on motorways, HOW THE HELL do you get 113 out of a 1.1!!!???

dannyboy2005 18th January 2009 22:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoolC (Post 2542162)
Lol i cant believe what some of you do to your cars, 55 in 2nd. 1.1's going 115. I only done about 80 in my VTR down motorway, most of the time thou just stick to 70.

TBF mate, why have a fast car if your going to drive it like that? I know its the speed limit but have some fun or sell it (to me!)

dannyboy2005 18th January 2009 22:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by wowoo (Post 2895430)
i gotta 1.4 westcoast and i can only get that to about 100 on motorways, HOW THE HELL do you get 113 out of a 1.1!!!???

I dono.. I've had just over 115mph. All of you think its bullshit but oh well.. It did take for ever and i think the conditions were perfect.. A cold motorway, cold breeze etc..

Very scary when you consider your only sitting in a car with a 2* Saftey rating (First thing that i thought anyway)

blackie_2k5 18th January 2009 22:33

not a saxo but my lil 1.2 clio(96) had a 4 speed box and used to do 64 in second and could get about117 tops, i thought the clocks were miles out so i got my m8 to follow in his vectra and they were nr perfect

JoshB 18th January 2009 22:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackie_2k5 (Post 2895629)
not a saxo but my lil 1.2 clio(96) had a 4 speed box and used to do 64 in second and could get about117 tops, i thought the clocks were miles out so i got my m8 to follow in his vectra and they were nr perfect

Oh that made me chuckle!

Matt67 19th January 2009 00:21

Lads.. a 115mph? No chance.

KamRacing 19th January 2009 08:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by dannyboy2005 (Post 2895549)
TBF mate, why have a fast car if your going to drive it like that? I know its the speed limit but have some fun or sell it (to me!)

you can have fun at lower speeds. you should know that driving a 1.1

Sophia_Bush 19th January 2009 08:55

I did have a turbo on mine hence speed old 1.1 mpi rarely went over 100 in that on track

Kenco 19th January 2009 12:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by dannyboy2005 (Post 2895549)
TBF mate, why have a fast car if your going to drive it like that? I know its the speed limit but have some fun or sell it (to me!)

its a saxo at the end of the day


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