personally i can't decide if i love them or hate them. But they do look mean.

and if they can beat a 2.0 litre Golf GTI, they have to be pretty special



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Thoughts?

i like the astra

Evo magazine done a fantastic review of them (as they always do)

they alos done a comparison with the focus rs and the rs pee'd all over the vxr.

they also did a group test with the golf gti and teh megane 225, i think the gold came out on top overall but i could be wrong given i have been up since 6:30 and never went to bed til 2 last night

saw the vxr stand at knockhill when the btcc was on,liked the look of the monaro and astra,but have vauxhall not stopped selling the monaro cos nobody was buying it?????

zafira vxr mmmm

should make a corsa one tho, that would be a beast!

monaros are out already arent they? havent done very well either

I like the monaro as i first saw them in Australia an loved them over there.

Think the zafira and the astra both look very nice.

i've seen them at the btcc stand since they were released, they were there last year as well promoting them before their release.

i love the monaro and the astra does look good. but i'd still be tempted to go with a golf gti

EDIT: oh and the astra has problems putting the power done if i remember the top gear test. they've got so much power going through the front wheels it struggles for traction

think i remember than al

Was the handling not pish as ever too?

If I remember correctly

i think the handling was ok but could of been better, couple that with the power not getting down on the tarmac properly and it was a bit twitchy

Ive heard that vauxhall are bringing out a corsa vxr next year sometime, i hope they are & if they do iam going to have to have strong words with my mum & get her to trade the sxi in for one, i read about it on the internet somewhere

is it understeer or overster that send it off in one direction when u put the power on?

cant remember but the astra had it!

this did beat the golf in a straight line i believe but it wasnt supposed to have handled aswell


isnt the corsa vxr a 1.6 turbo runnin at 180bhp?

Something like that yes, think its going to cost around the 15k mark if they put it into production, i dont think my mum would get rid of her car though as she has paid off the finance on it, its an 02 reg with around 20k miles on it, my dad tried persuading her to get the astra sport but she wasnt having any of it, i think she likes her small engined cars as they are good on petrol & cheap on insurance even though she only drives it to work & back & when she goes shopping.

yep, i read and heard about a corsa vxr too tony. Sounds promising...

I think iam going to be physically (sp) sick, ive just had a quick search on google & found pictures of what the corsa vxr will look like, i dont think i dare post the link to the pictures, also it will be badged up as i gsi in the rest of europe

Here you go, the so called pictures of the new corsa vxr, i think its the stickers that make it look horrible, but atleast morrette wont have to design some rear lights for it

i think one of the patients in my unit has an Top of the range astra sport. looks very like the VXR, its fuckin gorgeous

saxx: understeer is where the car can't turn the corner when under acceleration or anything! it casues the car to have to steer more to get the car to turn

oversteer is the opposite. turn too much in a bend and the back end will kick out sideways!

oz_borne: i say love it...thats a sweet looking car

i think "saxx" was talking about Torque steer... when a car with alot of torque puts its power on and steers to the left or right...

yea thats it!

Can anyone explain why Opel is called Vauxhall in the UK?

they always used to be opel but then changed!

I thought they stopped making the Manaro (sp). I hope they keep making them, they are awsome.

they have stopped but they have enough for a years sales or somethin

Yer I heard they had enough for 2 years, might be wrong. That and they astra VXR are nice. especially if you make the astra look like the BTCC astra, its YUMMY

I know... but why??

no idea and google isnt telling me!