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Vibe_I_C_E 3rd December 2010 10:36

Saxo VTR Coming, What should i Do?
 
Right ive decided that i'm going to get a VTR after christmas, Ill have about £3500 for The car, any mods and Insurance (Which is gonna hurt cos im 17) By janurary.

I'll be spending about 1500 on the car.

Im totally new to the modifying scene as ive only got a 1.25 fiesta at the moment, So i dont know what mods will give me what i want.

I'll be getting the Raceland Enclosed Induction, But also want a decent groan from the exhaust, Id like the raspy sound that rally cars have if this is possible? Not really Desperate for a ton power straight away as im more about ICE for now.

What mods do you all recommend?
Cheers

SAM-S44MDS- 3rd December 2010 10:42

If you are insuring a VTR at 17, you will need the £3500 just for the insurance :panic:

Anyway, a raceland is a good start. Supersprint 2" system. 4-2-1 manifold. That should get you some nice noise :y:

Vibe_I_C_E 3rd December 2010 11:00

I might have to be an Occasional Driver Wink :P

Its ok, if its too bad ill just pay it monthly

VJOFurio 3rd December 2010 12:20

Strip out the interior. Saxos are too cramped for friends in the back anyway!

As stated above, induction and exhaust upgrades and a decent suspension set up you'll have a cracking little car! :y:

SAXO8VYO 3rd December 2010 14:00

best way for you mate is to get a free vtr lol as insurance will be around £3500 and it aint worth risking on your mum or dads bud ive got a 1.4 saxo furio with the rear stripped out and cat back exhaust and enclosed induction and ive got the exhaust and enclosed induction on the insurance and im paying £2k and im 18 but im new to the road so have no ncb bonus

beckha 3rd December 2010 14:03

Yeah good luck insuring a VTR at 17.

I am 23 and pay 900 with 0 NCB.

x

SAXO8VYO 3rd December 2010 14:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by beckha (Post 4917154)
Yeah good luck insuring a VTR at 17.

I am 23 and pay 900 with 0 NCB.

x

damm and you are a girl i take it by your name ?
insurance is not gunna be good for this lad at all then
i remember like last year i looked at quotes for a vtr when i was 17 and i was getting quotes of £1600 fully comp on my own policy with breakdown cover and free windscreen cover and legal cover damm its gone bad:geek:

Vibe_I_C_E 3rd December 2010 14:44

Insurance for my mates VTR was 1500 named driver in February when he was 17 and just passed, and his area code has higher risk than mine so i was hoping for around the same amount?

SAM-S44MDS- 3rd December 2010 14:46

Insurance has gone up massively since then mate.

Also, having your car insured under someone else's name with you as a named driver, but only you using the car is illegal, and will void your insurance ;)

mlawlan69 3rd December 2010 14:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vibe_I_C_E (Post 4917254)
Insurance for my mates VTR was 1500 named driver in February when he was 17 and just passed, and his area code has higher risk than mine so i was hoping for around the same amount?

you will be lucky im 21 1ncb and im getting about the 3k mark ;)

Vibe_I_C_E 3rd December 2010 15:35

Most of Leeds has a high risk code

LS Leeds
1-13, 15-16, 19, 26-27 . . .. . . . . . . . . . F *
14, 18, 28 . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . E *
17, 21-23 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C
20, 25 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . D *
24 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . A
29 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . B

mlawlan69 3rd December 2010 15:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vibe_I_C_E (Post 4917393)
Most of Leeds has a high risk code

LS Leeds
1-13, 15-16, 19, 26-27 . . .. . . . . . . . . . F *
14, 18, 28 . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . E *
17, 21-23 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C
20, 25 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . D *
24 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . A
29 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . B

yeah im F* lmao.

still though its a lot of money, and i ultimately have no control of what goes on around here...

beckha 3rd December 2010 15:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAXO8VYO (Post 4917202)
damm and you are a girl i take it by your name ?
insurance is not gunna be good for this lad at all then
i remember like last year i looked at quotes for a vtr when i was 17 and i was getting quotes of £1600 fully comp on my own policy with breakdown cover and free windscreen cover and legal cover damm its gone bad:geek:

Yes. In my name.

I do have no claims but I use them on my civic which I pay £1100 (just got my renewal gone up £200!!) aswell but that with 4 years NCB. :y:

x

JJVTS 3rd December 2010 18:49

hi to all...
from 17 - 20 the insurance stings everyone nower days. (rite first im not pro, i cant even drive yet, but i was brought up building engines all i can tell u is what i know!!)
rite what you want are individual throttle bodies (£80-£300), ecu remaping (Free-£600) (free because i work for a electronics company for motorcycles and vtech kit cars) 4-2-1 manifold should give out a smashing backfire at high revs (price veryies) then a 35psi turbo charger with chrome intercooler and dump valve for extra 8-12bhp (should cost £700-£2000 depending if you wanna risk using ebay) from a 102bhp to 240-320bhp maybe more depending if you set the turbo timing and dump timing rite!!

devilsadvocate 3rd December 2010 20:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJVTS (Post 4917860)
hi to all...
from 17 - 20 the insurance stings everyone nower days. (rite first im not pro, i cant even drive yet, but i was brought up building engines all i can tell u is what i know!!)
rite what you want are individual throttle bodies (£80-£300), ecu remaping (Free-£600) (free because i work for a electronics company for motorcycles and vtech kit cars) 4-2-1 manifold should give out a smashing backfire at high revs (price veryies) then a 35psi turbo charger with chrome intercooler and dump valve for extra 8-12bhp (should cost £700-£2000 depending if you wanna risk using ebay) from a 102bhp to 240-320bhp maybe more depending if you set the turbo timing and dump timing rite!!

I think throttle boddies will cost upwards of £500 even second hand and I believe you need a different ECU to run them.
I dont know a great deal about turbos admittedly but I dont think a turbo which fits a saxo will run at 35psi...could be wrong?

I think a 4-2-1 mani and straight through exhaust would be a good start
Turboing is going to cost a minimum of 2k for a reliable setup and thats without forged internals

JJVTS 3rd December 2010 21:39

35psi would punch out only about 5-8psi on a 1.1l, wheres you can adjust and time all tht through manual adjusters. dont need new ecu just a remap programme!

Bedford126 3rd December 2010 22:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vibe_I_C_E (Post 4917393)
Most of Leeds has a high risk code

LS Leeds
1-13, 15-16, 19, 26-27 . . .. . . . . . . . . . F *
14, 18, 28 . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . E *
17, 21-23 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C
20, 25 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . D *
24 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . A
29 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . B

thats the biggest load of shit i ever read.
im 23 with no no claims and i drive a vtr insured for £400
and a ek9 civic type r and pay £600

and i ive in leeds 27

ClumpyVtR 4th December 2010 04:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by bedford126 (Post 4918300)
thats the biggest load of shit i ever read.
im 23 with no no claims and i drive a vtr insured for £400
and a ek9 civic type r and pay £600

and i ive in leeds 27

He did say most not all grandad..

LeeM 4th December 2010 07:32

I paid 700 on my vts first time, 20 with 0ncd and a dr10 on my license

Dom 4th December 2010 07:37

Insurance has gone up. At 17 you will be lucky to insure a VTR. When I was 17, Quinn direct were the best place.

I would say £2.5k+ to insure a VTR, steer clear till your 18 at least!

moxy89 4th December 2010 09:04

get a furio... looks like a vtr just a little slower and you have alot more cash to spend on it or save for a vts

iw_laurence 4th December 2010 09:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJVTS (Post 4917860)
hi to all...
from 17 - 20 the insurance stings everyone nower days. (rite first im not pro, i cant even drive yet, but i was brought up building engines all i can tell u is what i know!!)
rite what you want are individual throttle bodies (£80-£300), ecu remaping (Free-£600) (free because i work for a electronics company for motorcycles and vtech kit cars) 4-2-1 manifold should give out a smashing backfire at high revs (price veryies) then a 35psi turbo charger with chrome intercooler and dump valve for extra 8-12bhp (should cost £700-£2000 depending if you wanna risk using ebay) from a 102bhp to 240-320bhp maybe more depending if you set the turbo timing and dump timing rite!!

I'm sorry, but what? too much need for speed on your ps2 I think :wink:

Vibe_I_C_E 5th December 2010 14:13

Right insurance companies are crazy, I tried 3 different ways all with Admiral, firstly completely on my own for a Vtr was £3027, then I rang them up and asked how much it would be to change my Fiesta policy to the Vtr and they wanted an extra £70 on top of the £497 I've already paid which would run out in April, which I thought was great, then I asked how much it would be to renew in April and as a named driver they wanted £5300 how the fuck does any of that add up, it's cheaper to be completely alone, then somehow £567 shoots to £5300 lol

Looks like I will be driving a furio instead lol

SAM-S44MDS- 5th December 2010 14:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAM-S44MDS- (Post 4916677)
If you are insuring a VTR at 17, you will need the £3500 just for the insurance :panic:

Anyway, a raceland is a good start. Supersprint 2" system. 4-2-1 manifold. That should get you some nice noise :y:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vibe_I_C_E (Post 4921785)
Right insurance companies are crazy, I tried 3 different ways all with Admiral, firstly completely on my own for a Vtr was £3027, then I rang them up and asked how much it would be to change my Fiesta policy to the Vtr and they wanted an extra £70 on top of the £497 I've already paid which would run out in April, which I thought was great, then I asked how much it would be to renew in April and as a named driver they wanted £5300 how the fuck does any of that add up, it's cheaper to be completely alone, then somehow £567 shoots to £5300 lol

Looks like I will be driving a furio instead lol


I stand by my first post ;) I did warn you that you would need the best of the £3500 you have for insurance. Its crazy.

beckha 5th December 2010 14:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by bedford126 (Post 4918300)
thats the biggest load of shit i ever read.
im 23 with no no claims and i drive a vtr insured for £400
and a ek9 civic type r and pay £600

and i ive in leeds 27

Who the hell are you insured with?

x

beckha 5th December 2010 14:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJVTS (Post 4917860)
(free because i work for a electronics company for motorcycles and vtech kit cars)

It worries me that you can't even spell VTEC properly.... :wacko:

x

Nik_L 5th December 2010 15:09

It really isnt worth paying all that to insure a Vtr.They arent anything special.

My advice would be to go for something else.

_EssVtr 7th December 2010 06:09

now, your going down the same path i went, bought a vtr. then found out the insurance was kicking out 1300 on a provisinal godsake. get a furio, strip it, and breathing mods. and it will go like stink for a 1.4

outrage_uk 7th December 2010 06:49

Why does everyone think that the lad can afford to insure a Furious and not a VTR?

Its the age that's the killer (not literally, I hope), not the car.

Get insured in your parents name with you as a named driver buddy - its the only way your not going to pay a ridiculous amount. There are other ways you can save an extra few quid but I wont mention them in here cos im sure this paragraph will give the people paying over the odds enough to complain about.. :y:

Lounoob 7th December 2010 11:09

Lol il be 21 with 1ncb and 3points and my insurance for a vtr is 1700 lol

Jack 7th December 2010 11:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by outrage_uk (Post 4927296)
Why does everyone think that the lad can afford to insure a Furious and not a VTR?

Its the age that's the killer (not literally, I hope), not the car.

Get insured in your parents name with you as a named driver buddy - its the only way your not going to pay a ridiculous amount. There are other ways you can save an extra few quid but I wont mention them in here cos im sure this paragraph will give the people paying over the odds enough to complain about.. :y:

The insurance companies have cracked down on this though, especially if the car is in the 17yr old's name. You might as well just bite the bullet like I had to and pay a large amount. It'll be better when you've got a years no claims. So basically - get your own policy in your own name, and add your parents as named drivers, maybe other people the insurance company would class as "trustworthy", eg grandparents.

Dannnn93 7th December 2010 11:48

I'm 17 and my VTR is £218 a month and being on your parents doesn't void it if you drive as they can't prove who drives the car the most ;)

SAM-S44MDS- 7th December 2010 16:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dannnn93 (Post 4927598)
I'm 17 and my VTR is £218 a month and being on your parents doesn't void it if you drive as they can't prove who drives the car the most ;)

It does void it.
And yes they can prove who drives it most

Jack 7th December 2010 16:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dannnn93 (Post 4927598)
I'm 17 and my VTR is £218 a month and being on your parents doesn't void it if you drive as they can't prove who drives the car the most ;)

£218 is still a huge amount of money, you're voiding your insurance, and putting everybody else's up in turn. And you just admitted it on a public forum.

outrage_uk 7th December 2010 16:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAM-S44MDS- (Post 4928459)
It does void it.

Insurance companies will try find any reason to void a policy. Been a 'named driver' is not a reason on it's own.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAM-S44MDS- (Post 4928459)
And yes they can prove who drives it most

How?

outrage_uk 7th December 2010 16:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackh7692 (Post 4928490)
you're voiding your insurance, and putting everybody else's up in turn.

How? :wacko:

Jack 7th December 2010 16:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by outrage_uk (Post 4928505)
How? :wacko:

Because it gives young drivers a bad name in general. Insurance companies work on stereotypes, they don't want any young drivers as they are classed as a risk, even if they are brilliant drivers.

outrage_uk 7th December 2010 16:34

In that case - they shouldn't allow young lads to be named drivers.

SAXO8VYO 7th December 2010 16:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dannnn93 (Post 4927598)
I'm 17 and my VTR is £218 a month and being on your parents doesn't void it if you drive as they can't prove who drives the car the most ;)

you might aswell go and throw you £218 down the drain as your not going to get a payout if you crash as insurance companies are tight as fook so they try anything not to pay out you will get caught out then there for make every other young drivers insurance that little bit higher

by the way going around saying your fronting on your insurance isnt a good thing to do on a public forum and here on saxp where you will find 99.9% of the people dont agree with fronting and dont find it funny or cool

outrage_uk 7th December 2010 16:38

Also, alot of people have common sense and don't agree with getting ripped off..


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