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87 CS, Mk3 facelift (new picks)! vts-turbo!
Small bit of history.. i baught the 180 back in october with the plan to go to the nurburgring wich i did quite a few hicups on the way, but non the less really enjoyed driving the turbo'd vts estimated power was about 170-180 bhp.
Now just befor i went to the ring i had the car fully checked over and also a full service, this showed up some small problems to be sorted but also that under the imaculate paint work there was quite alot of rust.. enough to fail an MOT with and this was after i had the large patch on the rear delt with. so as my other thread on weather to reshell it with my other vts shell that is what i will be doing with some added parts allong the way.. :p over the last few weeks i been buying up some parts ready for the reshell ill let the picks do the talking as i do like to type away.. current spec of the saxo 180 Spec List Bodywork Non sunroof roofskin Fibreglass bonnet with meshed grille and aerocatch locking pins Front bumber with top half smoothed Fully colour coded with the side badges flushed Delocked doors Fibreglass tailgate with polycarb rear screen Rear bumper smoothed Interior Totally stripped! OMP Buckets and matching harnesses Modified OMP 10 point cage in orange Stereo removed and carbon blanking plate Carbon dial surround MOMO "race" steering wheel All airbags and wiring removed Carbon composite front and rear door cards All internal wiring wrapped in black insulating tape Engine, Chassis & Brakes 16 inch OZ Super T powder coated in orange with 195/40r16 Continental Sport tyres Hi Spec 4 pot calipers with 285mm discs and EBC pads Bilstein GMC Group N dampers and Faulkner -40mm springs. Two new drop links Rear lowered 50mm Fully polybushed including engine mounts Sparco Strut brace LAD gas flowed head Ported and polished throttle body GT17 Turbo Miltek manifold + Downpipe Universal front mount intercooler Custom made 2 1/4 inch stainless steel exhaust with 4inch back box Predator Standalone ECU and Lc1 wideband 491cc PICO injectors Brand new coil pack and NGK BCR8ES spark plugs Rev limiter raised to 7850rpm Green open filter the shell.. ![]() ![]() ![]() few of the 180 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() and my little film which i love http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v6...nt=Germany.mp4 and the new parts that i have bought all photo's are from other lads for sale threads as there all in storage till i have space to get to work on the shell. C2 metal inlet manifold a one off custom made manifold to hold 8 injectors comes with custom made fuel rails with fittings Pico IWP069 Weber fuel injectors x4 C2 big vavle head ported and polished with cat cams 830 solid lifters Complete bottom end with wossner low comp piston and rods, with new ACl main and big end bearings with crome sump GMC Intercooler + Rad (Modified to a single pass intercooler with slimline fan) ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() sooo after all that the new spec is Bodywork Carbon fibre roof roofskin Fibreglass bonnet with meshed grille and aerocatch locking pins Front bumber with top half smoothed Fully colour coded with the side badges flushed Delocked doors Fibreglass tailgate with polycarb rear screen Rear bumper smoothed Morrete Head Lights Interior Totally stripped! OMP Buckets and matching harnesses Modified OMP 10 point cage in orange MOMO "race" steering wheel All airbags and wiring removed Carbon composite front and rear door cards All internal wiring wrapped in black insulating tape Engine, Chassis & Brakes 16 inch OZ Super T powder coated in orange with 195/40r16 Continental Sport tyres Hi Spec 4 pot calipers with 285mm discs and EBC pads Full braided brake lines 23mm master cylinder Non PAS stearing rack OMP welded in cage Bilstein GMC Group N dampers and Faulkner -40mm springs. Two new drop links Rear lowered 50mm Fully polybushed group N engine mounts Sparco Strut brace OPM lower brace fuelab high pressure pump and filter, pro-alloy swirl pot, all braided hoses LAD gas flowed head Ported and polished throttle body GT17 Turbo (GT28r to fitted when manifold and down pipe sourced) Miltek manifold + Downpipe C2 metal inlet manifold 8 injectors & custom made fuel rails GMC single pass intercooler and Rad combo remote header tank Custom made 2 1/4 inch stainless steel exhaust with 4inch back box Predator Standalone ECU and Lc1 wideband 491cc PICO injectors Pico IWP069 Weber fuel injectors C2 big vavle head ported and polished with cat cams 830 solid lifters wossner low comp piston, rods,ACl main and big end bearings crome sump Brand new coil pack and NGK BCR8ES spark plugs Rev limiter raised to 7850rpm Green open filter Thats about it for now till i get on and start the work which should be the next few weeks. |
Subscribed:y: the mk1 looks great it's due some morrettes:homme:
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Glad to see this car is loved still :)
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This will be another epic thread Are u going for a mk2 front end a full conversion |
Which is the rusty shell then mate?
Looking good anyhow. |
nice plans, glad your going ahead.... full steam ahead by the looks of it, but change the title mate, re-shell means no more saxo 180, maybe re incarnation of saxo 180, but very little of the oringinal remains as it stands
sunderz's forged vts turbo.... (add your project title here) :y: |
yeah will be changing it when work actually starts :) i'e this week hopefully..
not sure on Mk1 or Mk2..dependant on a very 1 off mod i'm planning but that will all be revealed when i start tinkering this week. the orange wheeled 180 fella thats why i'm taking all the original bits off it and using them on my caged one.. |
i know mate, but this is the time you can put your stamp on it, its no longer 180, its a vts turbo built by sunderz :y:
go for mk2 mate, front end is so much better, NEVER liked mk1s till i bought one lol, but it has to be in the right colour and black doesnt go IMO, black mk2 FTW :D |
Black mk2 with smoked headlights would set the from off really well then a sneaky inter cooler in the bigmouth
Ooooooh I can't wait lol |
than inlet looks minted
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started on the new shell today little bit of work some small surface rust removal just to clean it all up and cutting to fit parts..
![]() spot the diference... ![]() ![]() Regards Chris |
great updates here chris,
just to let you know, with those cams/headwork solid lifter etc and the gt17 turbo wont be the best match in the world, that turbo wont be able to hold power much more than 6k where the cams/headwork etc will shift power up the revs and will more than likey work well over 7k... if i were you, whilst you are changing a lot of things id get the manifold modified and a better suited turbo on order :) |
oh, and make sure the ecu you are using supports 8 injectors
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sorry mate, just noticed you are going to source a gt28r later on... what are you going to be using the car for? only reason i ask is there maybe a couple of turbos that will complement your spec if its a track car.
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Glad to see you're making use of bits if both cars. Sorry to hear about the rust issues but this shell is the perfect base for YOUR new project
Please change your name to sunderz250 ;) |
![]() got one :D yeah just figuring out best combination/way round to do stuff...drop the 180 angine in to get through an mot etc then sell that engine as a package with manifold turbo etc... and use that money to get a DP manifold and downpipe... but got alot to do first plumb in fuel lines and brakelines etc..etc.. but started the work. will probs swap the suspention over tomoz and drop fuel tank and rear beam off tomoz and start measuring up the braided lines etc.. |
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May sound like a noobish question, but what does the 180 mean? |
The fuelling setup is carporn
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the origional owner was saxo180 and so thats what the orange wheel'd car got known as so easiest to name it that... but as been said as work progresses it will have a new name and will be named when i get my private plate on it :D
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Ahh think I've actually got a pic of it on my PC of it at a show with sax 180 on the plate or something....yeh I do...can post it up if you want it but I got it off this site anyway.
Will be interesting to see how you do this one :y: |
can post it in this thread if you want fella :)
http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...=343173&page=6 |
bit of an update sepnt the last few days working on the car('s) few problems encountered and some things running really smoothly..
got the Hi-Specs swapped over.. and also trial fitted my new wheels ![]() ![]() ![]() think the wheels look great and when refurbed will look amazing with my new front end. Non PAS stearing rack trail fitted and realised the main shaft out, connecting to the stearing column is too short so going to have to fire up the lathe and machine a new shaft or summot might do a guide for people encountering this in the future Non PAS in black ![]() and intercooler rad combo fully fitted ![]() and Finally engine is 90% built up...new cam covers new gaskets turbo fitted but changine :p and inlet fitted so far ![]() ![]() ![]() and last my assistants :A: ![]() more to come! regards chris |
Photo's t follow but i have been working on the front end and and i am officially calling this the Mk3 saxo the there is allot of work left but i love it.. photo's to folow
i also have my private plate to put on when taxed etc.. not much but regards chris |
mk3? tell us more:p
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nope...not till im happy enough to share photo's :A:
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Pah! Citroen copied me ;)
Is the new plate 87 CS? If so that must have cost more than the car!!! |
your build is amazing
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Lol Craig yea it cost a small fortune but it is my date of birth and initials DOB 1987 initials clearly lol, worth it in my eyes.
And thnx sn3ddon, don't think it will be there fOr FCS this year but it might happen :) |
Really nice thread bud :y:
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Not much of an uptadate but here it is anyway
gearbox, flywheel and cluch off the old engine and ready to go on the new one the engine is 50% in just need a bit of muscle from my mate tomoz and should have it in so i can start positioning boost pipes and mountings for external oil filter etc but thats as far as it will go for a while as moving house and running my own comapy is takeing up all my time at the moment. ![]() ![]() ![]() and also i will officially show my first development pick of my MK3 front end still needs a fair bit of work but hope this gives you an idea, working on relocating the indicators to free up space and looking at another style indicator as a temporary fix for the time being but i think it will look great and will help open the front end up for cooling contemplating mounting an oil cooler behind the grill ![]() regards chris |
This is going to look chunky!!!
How about some slim DRL's and indicators in where the fogs went? |
yeah makes it look allot wider.. have been looking at motorbike indicators or LED strips in the fogs like ya sugested, the bit i cant face is propper hacking up my morretes and thats why i stopped haha
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DRL will look crap but its in keeping the the mk3/ds3 theme i guess
will be interesting to see it when finished :) |
looking forward to how to this turns out buddy! :y: nice to fresh ideas bouncing round!
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Could look good but will probably look gash, not sure really.
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updates?
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looking forward too seeing this done
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Sounds seriously interesting mate, looking forward to seeing the progress :y:
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