CAMMED SILVER MK2 VTS... Need Help/ Peoples Opinions Please!!!!! Also a few TRAX Pics (Maxxis Babes :p)
 

Ok this is the thread for my old VTR, hopfully the lad I sold it to will start a new thread for it... http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=318727

Ok so VTS when I got it...

65,000 miles
FSH

Performance:
Cammed with 708's
Remapped from Chipwizards
Supersprint manifold
Supersprint exhaust
Raceland induction
Competition Clutch

Suspension & Wheels:
Lowered 60mm Front 80mm Rear
Spax Dampers
Vts wheels

Exterior:
Smoked headlights
Smoked rear lights
Smaller aeriel

Interior:
JVC CD player

VTR in behind/ VTS infront


And after 2 weeks of ownership....

Performance:
Cammed With 708's
Remapped From Chipwizards
Supersprint Manifold
Supersprint Exhaust
Decat
Raceland Induction Modified
Competition Clutch
GE Quickshift
BM Baker GrpN Lower Engine Mount

Suspension, Brakes & Wheels:
Lowered 60mm Front 80mm Rear(soon to be lowered 40mm)
Spax Dampers
Team Dynamic Pro Race 1.2's 15" Powdercoated In Anthracite
195/45r15 Toyo Proxes T1-R’s All Round
Sparco Upper Strut Brace
OMP Lower Strut Brace(not yet fitted as too low lol)
266mm Callipers
Braided Hoses
5Dot Brake Fluid
Mintex Pads
Brembo Discs

Exterior:
Smoked Headlights
Smoked Indicators
Black Wing Mirrors
MK1 Rear Lights
Smaller Aeriel
Callipers Painted Red
Black Rear Badges
Flay Aero Wiper Blades
Custom Deslatted Grill
Tinted Rear Windows
Xenon Lights 6000k

Interior:
Sony Xplode CD Player
106 GTI Airbagged Half Leather Interior
C4 VTS Gearknob
Shorter Gearstick
LED Interior Lights
Black Tax Disc Holder
De-pinned










So Plans:
Service DONE
Raise to 40mm
Waxoil spray stuff the underneath or hammerite
Rocker Cover Seal
New Oil Cap
Heatlight trim clips
JP4 engine cover
New droplinks
New driveshafts
New green cotton filter
New altenator as battery light is flashing
New ABS sensor as abs light is on
Fit lower brace once raised
Tidy up paintwork
Lightened fly wheel
And possibly s1 rallye gearbox

Future:
Throttle bodys could be in the pipeline... i know this mite sound stupid but do you just bolt them on and then get a remap?

Rolling road with blackie etc
Trax
TRACK TIME

Page 1= Spec. 1st pics and swap everything over lol
Page 2= Power issue
Page 3 = Rolling road(pics). Rally day(Pics). Trax(Pics)

Hmmm... This car looks familiar.... It's mine!!!
Glad everythings going to plan mate, looking forward to watching what you do with it, as far as throttle bodies are concerned, I think if you get the Jenvey ones the come with pretty much all you need, fuel rail etc, for about £1k. Fitting them will probably be a pain in the arse but not too hard if you know what you're on about which you do. And then yeah remap her up to the hills!

Looking good!

Rob

What's with the lack of replys to this too??!! Think you need to write throttle bodies in CAPITALS!

Changed quite a bit already tho rob haha will deffo have to meet up soon mate :y:

really nice cars mate.

its a good looking car...

nice! LOVE TD 1.2s! it does depend which bodies you get tbh! What you looking at getting?

Thanks mate

Cheers i agree ;)

Cheers jay and i dont have any clue attal about throttle bodys would need some advice haha? And do you think a lightened flywheel is a worth while mod?

Yeah that's why I'm glad I sold it to a lad like yourself! Think I'm in newc this weekend Frankie so if I can get a receipt from Jo by then I'll whiz it round to yours n we can play top trumps with our new motors!:boxing:

Ps need to change my avatar pic!... Or join a type r forum ha ha

Sounds good mate would like too see your CTR :)

Get a ecu.... Fuck the standard ecu off get bodies like sandy brown ones!!!

I'm liking that lots!

I'm also a new VTS owner

:P

Much we talking here? Power gain?

Cheers... Where abouts in Newcastle are you?

looks mint mate, were bouts in newcastle you from? and that induction kit of the vtr isnt for sale us it :)

expect to see you at blyth in it all polished up...

loking good mate, preadtor 3 plug is nearly done, wait fo that with bodies, win win

Cheers, it's being sold with the VTR mate haha. Im from wallsend where abouts are you?

Don't know about polished up haha but I will deffo be there ;)

Cheers blackie can't wait for the RR day already haha what gains will I get from pred ECU and bodies?

Getting prices at the minute for lots of work done!

Just got back from Dundee an the car didn't miss a beat... Had a good few blasts with a S3 and a few others :) the S3 driver couldn't believe it was a 1.6 lol

And only using V Power now a it runs alot better and deffo bette MPG.

And will get some new photos up soon ;)

Don't know if the S3 was flat out or not but we were identical until triple's lol
and it was the 1st shape S3 by the way lol

Yeah mate sick! I raced one when I had it and there's nothing in it!

People using Throttle bodies on these usually see about 180bhp IIRC, makes for a forking fast motor that's for sure...would be a Subaru eater for sure! May need to replace a few engine parts like valve springs etc but well worth it. Looks sick!

Went to the rolling road meet today which was good, met a few people and there were a few hood cars on the rollers... But mine only made 122bhp so going to check to make sure the cams are 708's and then service the car and in a few weeks it's going into a performance garage to get looked at.

And another downer a woman hit me yesterday so that is now another claim... Really sik of being crashed into now haha

Will get pics up of damage and rr pics soon and will report back about cams etc tomorrow

cheers :)

ok no pics as been too busy but its deffo running 708's and people have suggested its just not timed up correctly so its going to williams next week... pulled cambelt cover off tho and snapped it and now its making a mental noise!!! sik as fuk atm like :(

Did you remove the ECU tray and engine mount before taking the belt cover off? Chalk it up to experience mate. ;)

Williams will get the timing sorted for you.

corse i didnt haha :P and hope he does mate will keep it updated :)

you dont have much luck with women driver do you... good luck with the tunning though...

no luck with women in the car department lol think my cars turn into big magnets or like a huge lynx effect lol :homme:

aye hope the power issue gets sorted like

cheers:y:

all costs £££££££... what power gains are you trying for ....

Well it was 153 so I'd be hoping for that or there abouts lol.... Fingers crossed just off a service and timing :D

sure the 122 wasn't wheel power?

no ad, it was 99.? atw..

pahahahaaaa

anyway... yeah that was a bit harsh.

How the hell did the cams get that much out of timing? Something fishy going on surely?

i think it may have skipped a tooth tbh mate, even a few degrees out on the timing makes a big difference, when i cammed my old vtr on ph3s i got no timing info with it, so i timied it up to standard, and my house is bottom of street up to counrty lane to roundabout, say 1 mile or so

i warmed it up and blasted it up to the roundabout about 20 times, adujsting the timing to get it perfect, when i went too far it took it back,

took about 4 runs before i ent up going the right way with timing... after that every degree made a HUGE dif in power till i got it right :y:

Maybe worth checking out the above ^ then Frankie, I don't get it mate?! Unless for some strange reason the map that Wayne did for me just ain't working with your exhaust/intake setup cos you've swapped over the parts but still 30bhp?? My old non cammed white vts had 99bhp at the wheels on the dyno, and I had them both at the same time, AND had the cams put into the new one and mapped then took them both for a blast and the silver one was off like a rocket...??? Non comprendez... let us know how you get on with the garage. P.s you get that receipt? P.s.p.s. Next time I post I'll give you a link to the 15.1 beating a cammed C2 running 165bhp stripped out. No more p.s's I don't think. Roberto

P.s.p.s.p.s. I need to learn how to use paragraphs...

K so my day yesterday, went on a rally taster and had 4 laps in a rally prep'd Saxo and then a hop lap in an impreza and all I can say is what an experience lol think I like rally more than normal track driving... So watch this space lol but will upload some pics and vids later.

Then went to williams and guess what lol the car was on standard timing! Not just that tho... The ECU light isn't just on because of lambda sensors, it's because there is a problem with the ECU think it was code blah blah 6060. So that could also be the problem! So don't really know where to go from here!!!! Could it just be because of the remap tho? And only other way is to wait until the rolling road and then adjust it there to get top bhp :(

will get pics on later, cheers :y:

Save for standalone ecu and bodies!! Get the timing and mapped again.

Only way or getting the max out of the car now is a remap and timing done during the mapping session

As not always does the timing from the cam company to timing for your engine.

But should be better.

Maybe go to the sane dyno again for a quick run to see if it made a difference.

Cheers to everyone how has helped me with this (AndySAXO, Blackie, Williams to name a few) but been out with a mate and his 172cup and mine pulled about two car lenghts ahead of his from stand still until 2nd gear and then kept the gap way into triple digits so im not going to bother researching into this anymore im just going to get it raised to 40mm, lower brace on, strip it and enjoy it!

will deffo upload pics and vids later :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?nomobile=1&v=Z9fKHnHLW1w That's it at Santa pod doing a 15.2 (hope the link works). Although it looks like the c2 beats it it's just the angle of the camera, watch the finish clock and the saxos clicks up first
( the c2 is cammed, standalone ecu, and stripped )