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Rookie 19th August 2011 12:40

Best sounding bacbox?
 
currently have a KamRacing full system on my 16v but its not quite the sound i was hoping for, doesnt pop or bang and it isn't half as raspy as some of the saxo's i heard round the track at FCS. what are people's opinions on the best sounding backbox (coupled with a straight through pipe)? Is the supersprint any better? a lad local to me has a standard VTR other than induction kit and it sounds immense, always pops when decellerating but im not sure what backbox it is. looks like a smaller tail pipe than the kam racing....

Vtr_Cam 19th August 2011 12:45

Supersprints sound different to Kamracing something to do with the Kam backbox being shorter than the supersprint i think.

My superpsrint is raspy with foot down and pops quite a bit, so id say try that :y:

mlawlan69 19th August 2011 15:39

iv just put my supersprint on yesterday and it sounds wicked, even on just a furio but now i need to get the cat off to get it's full noise which is a bit annoying !

moffa 19th August 2011 16:47

saxsport got one on my vts sound ace :y:

JamesR 19th August 2011 16:58

Could try the Sportex 3" backbox with there "Race Tube" centre section, just the backbox on mine makes a nice pur when idling and sounds great under throttle

Prickle 19th August 2011 17:00

Supersprint 2"/Sportex 3" from my exp. (with cat/silencers)

wolf_gsxr 19th August 2011 17:01

If it's a de-cat centre pipe it should pop. Have you still got a standard mani? Saxsport all day long for me. Might be the way you drive?

KamRacing 19th August 2011 17:33

I doubt our system is the cause of the lack of pops and bangs. Its not that big a silencer!

VinceVTS 19th August 2011 17:39

hmmm had my heat set on one of those silencers and am now haven second thoughts, anyone else had the kam racing one and then decided it wasnt a good enough rally raspy sound and changed it???

Ashleyp 19th August 2011 17:42

BTB.

loved being in Finch's old saxo when he hit 7k.

To the OP. with regards to no pops or bangs, cat or standard manifold still in?

matteon 19th August 2011 17:43

saxsport or sportex 3" all the way mate

joe333 19th August 2011 17:45

kam racing,supersprint,piper all raspy when de-catted!

Psycho18 19th August 2011 17:45

i had a 4-2-1 raceland mani
straight through supersprint
kam racing backbox and it popped and banged at low revs.

KamRacing 19th August 2011 17:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by VinceVTS (Post 5509661)
hmmm had my heat set on one of those silencers and am now haven second thoughts, anyone else had the kam racing one and then decided it wasnt a good enough rally raspy sound and changed it???

youtube is your friend. Plenty of cars running our system and they pop and bang on overrun. Its a shorter backbox than the supersprint but is an 8" diameter. Its louder than the saxsport by a db or so.

Rookie 19th August 2011 17:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by KamRacing (Post 5509655)
I doubt our system is the cause of the lack of pops and bangs. Its not that big a silencer!

fair play, not sure what else it could be though as it was the same on my VTR! any ideas?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ashleyp (Post 5509662)
BTB.

loved being in Finch's old saxo when he hit 7k.

To the OP. with regards to no pops or bangs, cat or standard manifold still in?

nope no cat its got the kam racing tube on it also, standard mani but then i had a raceland 4-2-1 on my VTR and still didnt get any popping :(

CitroenSport 19th August 2011 18:31

piper 4-1 and supersprint straight through on my old VTR pops and bangs
and supersprint full straight through system on my VTS is mega loud/raspy and really pops/bangs lol

RyanBurrows19 19th August 2011 18:42

mines custom Exhaust UK one-off with 4-2-1 manifold sounds really nice

Gazer 19th August 2011 20:04

I got a piper 3" straight through get pops and bangs, mainly more when the engine is higher up the rev range or when exhaust is hot then does it at low revs alot :)

ChAdS 19th August 2011 20:05

They all seem to sound the same too me a part from magnex is more deeper sound.

DanT 20th August 2011 00:37

Full supersprint system Inc manifold is going to be hard to beat tbh! Well worth the money!

sebring 20th August 2011 00:37

as a current exhaust thread here we go, first post so hi guys!

Been offered a 1.4 saxo (mk1) at a silly price from a mate that i know looks after his cars and is in good nick so i shall be a saxo owner before the weekend is over!
Now it has the standard exhaust on it at the moment - i am going to be looking into putting a new (full) system on it - problem is, im a bit lost. I want a raspy sound that bangs and pops - my MGB sebring track car screams but has a deeper sound (not that i would dare put the race system on a sax!), i want something that is a lighter rasp that pops and bangs (im sure you are all aware of the note i am looking for). what do you guys recomend?
I am new to french cars (car history has been seat, nissan, BMW, MG and holden although i had a clio that was kept completely standard) so will i be able to use a vts manifold and system? I would persume so as arent the main engine differeces that the vts is a bored out (obviously from factory) 1.4 with a 16v head on it?

KamRacing 20th August 2011 09:34

8v exhaust port spacing is different so you need an 8v manifold.
If you want to maximise power and get a truely great sound then as DanT mentioned.
The full Supersprint system with Supersprint manifold and Race Exhaust is rather nice.

KamRacing 20th August 2011 09:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gazer (Post 5509838)
I got a piper 3" straight through get pops and bangs, mainly more when the engine is higher up the rev range or when exhaust is hot then does it at low revs alot :)

The piper has an inch and a half of extra silencer than the KR Backbox. When I designed it I wanted a smooth bend so had to lengthen the pipe at back at the expense of noise reduction.

Sounds to me like the car in question is fuelling very nicely or its not doing something on overrun.
Maybe some longer duration 1321708 camshafts are needed to get fuel into the exhaust :D

sebring 20th August 2011 15:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by KamRacing (Post 5510434)
8v exhaust port spacing is different so you need an 8v manifold.
If you want to maximise power and get a truely great sound then as DanT mentioned.
The full Supersprint system with Supersprint manifold and Race Exhaust is rather nice.

Thanks,

So the VTR manifold will fit? I am all for a bit of fettling but I think i shall leave the TS mani for the 16v head in that case!!

Deeeee 20th August 2011 16:00

Supersprint "2 is by far the best, raspy, pops with suitable mods :)

vtr_chris90 20th August 2011 22:50

omp inox has to be best sounding imo :D

love the sound of mine combined with piper manifold

samclose 21st August 2011 23:16

cherry bomb back box :D

rkenyo 22nd August 2011 17:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by samclose (Post 5513081)
cherry bomb back box :D

GAY - nuff said:-)

rkenyo 22nd August 2011 17:58

supersprint 2" all the way. swapped my crap powerflow for a full system yesterday and my god it sounds 5000 times better, moves a hell of a lot quicker too! Thats on my 118bhp cammed vtr.

Gazer 22nd August 2011 18:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by KamRacing (Post 5510440)
The piper has an inch and a half of extra silencer than the KR Backbox. When I designed it I wanted a smooth bend so had to lengthen the pipe at back at the expense of noise reduction.

Sounds to me like the car in question is fuelling very nicely or its not doing something on overrun.
Maybe some longer duration 1321708 camshafts are needed to get fuel into the exhaust :D

The car does seem to run very week indeed, no misfeing or nothing, but if you do stand behind the car and rev it can smell the fuel slightly but I guess that's just because of having no cat, would those run wothout a remap? Think one of my stem seals is bit slightly wearing get the odd puff of blue smoke when start it up from cold every know and then wanna sort that out first but dunno who to take it to :/

KamRacing 22nd August 2011 18:18

I dont think theres a better flowing exhaust than the supersprint and the KAM Racing ones.

joe333 22nd August 2011 18:23

raceland 4-2-1 supersprint/kam racing centre pipe kam racing back box! best ever! fact!

rkenyo 22nd August 2011 21:58

raceland 4/2/1 wrapped - supersprint race pipe + decat - 2" supersprint backbox.

Bet they sound nearly the same TBH. :p

kane_15023 24th August 2011 20:38

saxsport 2" or scorpion 2.5 2" exit


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