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Mickswan 13th May 2014 16:13

The Scotland question
 
Just watched the news and there banging on about Scottish Indipendance again. Are any members North of the wall, wildling, Haggis Munching heed the baaals voting yes?

BBM 13th May 2014 16:18

No chance.

The SNP have no idea what will happen if they get independence and are basing out economy off of Oil Revenue. Oil Revenue has been falling on a yearly basis for a while now.

Plus Salmond is a fat wank

D4MJT 13th May 2014 16:18

I think we should dig along Hadrians wall and cast them all adrift. :homme:

Mickswan 13th May 2014 16:41

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Originally Posted by D4MJT (Post 6451770)
I think we should dig along Hadrians wall and cast them all adrift. :homme:

Your more or less on the front line!

I also wonder how many times brave heart will be on in the coming months.

D4MJT 13th May 2014 16:45

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Originally Posted by Mickswan (Post 6451810)
Your more or less on the front line!

I also wonder how many times brave heart will be on in the coming months.

Tell me about it, I've spent the last 2 months digging a moat.

MuZiZZle 13th May 2014 16:46

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Originally Posted by D4MJT (Post 6451813)
Tell me about it, I've spent the last 2 months digging a moat.

I've just surrounded my house with veg, that'll scare the fuckers off

chompy 13th May 2014 16:56

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Originally Posted by BBM (Post 6451769)
No chance.

The SNP have no idea what will happen if they get independence and are basing out economy off of Oil Revenue. Oil Revenue has been falling on a yearly basis for a while now.

Plus Salmond is a fat wank

So when your kids ask you why you voted no, you'll say because salmond is a fat wank?

So narrow minded.

If you take away the oil revenue Scotland is still paying in more than it receives.

Go read some of the real government documentation and accounts on the matter and stop basing your opinions on daily mail propaganda.

Also, you do know that for the last 20+ years, the voting of Scotland in the British parliament hasn't had any effect on the voted in government? This basically means, it doesn't matter who we vote for we still get fucked by some English chosen government.

If you're really interested, I can provide sources for the above. however, I believe you won't really care.

chompy 13th May 2014 17:18

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Originally Posted by MuZiZZle (Post 6451816)
I've just surrounded my house with veg, that'll scare the fuckers off


L33h 13th May 2014 17:33

I can see where theyre coming from in some ways. All of the decisions about stuff is always made down south to suit them. With being up north it seems as they dont care about us and scotland. Having said that it still isnt a good idea imo theres too much to consider

MartinObviously 13th May 2014 18:09

I'm voting yes.

Fuck the lot of ya!

Mickswan 13th May 2014 18:11

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Originally Posted by MartinObviously (Post 6451854)
I'm voting yes.

Fuck the lot of ya!

At least you'll be voting, wonder what the turn out will be.

chompy 13th May 2014 18:14

I think there will be a phenomenal turnout. Which way it will go is anyone's guess atm though

MuZiZZle 13th May 2014 18:26

Will IRN-BRU go up in price?

that's all that matters

MartinObviously 13th May 2014 18:33

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Originally Posted by Mickswan (Post 6451856)
At least you'll be voting, wonder what the turn out will be.

Haha, well you'd be stupid to not vote. You're as well making a decision I say :)

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Originally Posted by MuZiZZle (Post 6451864)
Will IRN-BRU go up in price?

that's all that matters

Nah, not for northerners. you're close enough :hug:

Gabbastard 13th May 2014 18:52

Scotland would most probably need to take out loans to fund itself the first couple of years, which would be a terrifying prospect given that it would have no status as a creditor and would probably receive a very bad credit rating. As such, any loan would be at a hideous rate. This goes for everything theyd take loans out on. And there would be a lot to do if they were going it alone.

Also, with regards to "the oil", any offshore rigs are sited under agreements with the UK, not Scotland: renegotiations would need to take place to work that out, and youre dreaming if England would just say that Scotland could have it.

Plus aye, Salmond is a fat wank.

Scott 13th May 2014 20:16

I'll be voting no

MartinObviously 13th May 2014 21:02

voting no is like voting tory.

D4MJT 13th May 2014 21:06

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Originally Posted by MartinObviously (Post 6451939)
voting no is like voting tory.

Are you reet young, and therefore Liberal?

chompy 13th May 2014 21:49

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Originally Posted by MartinObviously (Post 6451939)
voting no is like voting tory.

Voting no IS voting tory. They're not going anywhere.

chompy 13th May 2014 21:55

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Originally Posted by Gabbastard (Post 6451878)
Scotland would most probably need to take out loans to fund itself the first couple of years, which would be a terrifying prospect given that it would have no status as a creditor and would probably receive a very bad credit rating. As such, any loan would be at a hideous rate. This goes for everything theyd take loans out on. And there would be a lot to do if they were going it alone.

Also, with regards to "the oil", any offshore rigs are sited under agreements with the UK, not Scotland: renegotiations would need to take place to work that out, and youre dreaming if England would just say that Scotland could have it.

Plus aye, Salmond is a fat wank.

I don't think anyone expects it to be easy/simple. Do you still live with your parents?

Gabbastard 13th May 2014 23:15

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Originally Posted by chompy (Post 6451961)
I don't think anyone expects it to be easy/simple. Do you still live with your parents?

Nah I own my own house. Not sure that affects if Salmond is a fat wank or not?

sharpy24 14th May 2014 00:55

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Originally Posted by D4MJT (Post 6451813)
Tell me about it, I've spent the last 2 months digging a moat.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MuZiZZle (Post 6451816)
I've just surrounded my house with veg, that'll scare the fuckers off

flol you two know how to cheer a shit nightshift up ;)

chompy 14th May 2014 07:12

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Originally Posted by Gabbastard (Post 6451975)
Nah I own my own house. Not sure that affects if Salmond is a fat wank or not?

Why did you move out? Would you move back? Was it easy? This is relevant btw.

MuZiZZle 14th May 2014 07:22

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Originally Posted by sharpy24 (Post 6451988)
flol you two know how to cheer a shit nightshift up ;)

you should be the meat in our sex bap

white_vts_boy 14th May 2014 07:25

Fuck Scotland.

MuZiZZle 14th May 2014 07:36

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Originally Posted by white_vts_boy (Post 6452001)
Fuck Scotland.

I'd rather chisel Boro off the UK and push it into the sea than lose Scotland, other than the parmo, drugged up hookers, a former fotball manager with a sweet perm and molesting children what have you given us?

white_vts_boy 14th May 2014 08:16

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Originally Posted by MuZiZZle (Post 6452002)
I'd rather chisel Boro off the UK and push it into the sea than lose Scotland, other than the parmo, drugged up hookers, a former fotball manager with a sweet perm and molesting children what have you given us?

What more do you want?

MuZiZZle 14th May 2014 08:17

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Originally Posted by white_vts_boy (Post 6452008)
What more do you want?

That's a fair point!

chompy 14th May 2014 09:19

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Originally Posted by white_vts_boy (Post 6452008)
What more do you want?

IRN Bru, Knockhill and dirty slags :y:

D4MJT 14th May 2014 09:38

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Originally Posted by chompy (Post 6452022)
IRN Bru, Knockhill and dirty slags :y:

We've got Cadwell Park, and have you not been to Newcastle :homme:

Hazmanscoop 14th May 2014 09:42

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Originally Posted by MuZiZZle (Post 6452002)
I'd rather chisel Boro off the UK and push it into the sea than lose Scotland, other than the parmo, drugged up hookers, a former fotball manager with a sweet perm and molesting children what have you given us?

Wasnt there a purple baby at some point? Oh and all that sweet, sweet smoke.

Everywhere you go shopping in boro is like walking out the stars in your eyes door...

But seriously on the scotland question, think it was a bit cheeky of them to say they want independence and then ask to keep OUR currency... Independence means independence.

Also, someone mentioned that scotland puts in more than it gets. I'm sure thats the same for everyone in this country as a whole? Even our government doesnt pay out half as much as it should, because theyre all using it for holidays and 6 homes.

The government is a joke...

Scott 14th May 2014 09:46

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Originally Posted by MartinObviously (Post 6451939)
voting no is like voting tory.

Quote:

Originally Posted by chompy (Post 6451958)
Voting no IS voting tory. They're not going anywhere.

I vote Tory already so win for me.

D4MJT 14th May 2014 09:48

Don't you scotch lot still get funded uni degrees rather than loans?

Hazmanscoop 14th May 2014 09:48

Yeah, forgot about that...

Stop spending the money on people going to uni!

D4MJT 14th May 2014 09:57

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Originally Posted by Hazmanscoop (Post 6452039)
Yeah, forgot about that...

Stop spending the money on people going to uni!

But then young Morag will have to pay back the cost of her foundation degree in Nail Technology and Shortbread Construction Techniques!!

Hazmanscoop 14th May 2014 09:59

Its fine, she'd never be leaving scotland.

Tbh people have a hard enough time understanding me down south (Oxford way) and my geordie accent isnt that strong (Grew up in blyth) so theyre fucked down here.

chompy 14th May 2014 10:21

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Originally Posted by Scott (Post 6452037)
I vote Tory already so win for me.

WOW. :n: didn't think anyone was that daft.

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Originally Posted by D4MJT (Post 6452038)
Don't you scotch lot still get funded uni degrees rather than loans?

Yup, fully funded learning. You also get a bursary and student loan to cover the costs of living whilst studying if you qualify. :y: Which the tory's tried to get rid of... :boxing:

Scott 14th May 2014 11:43

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Originally Posted by chompy (Post 6452050)
WOW. :n: didn't think anyone was that daft.



Yup, fully funded learning. You also get a bursary and student loan to cover the costs of living whilst studying if you qualify. :y: Which the tory's tried to get rid of... :boxing:

Meh makes no ends to me, if we get independence ill take my tax paying ass south of the border then elsewhere in the world.

The Scottish Government is already as corrupt and backwards as the full UK government in England and thats without full powers.

Gabbastard 14th May 2014 12:32

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Originally Posted by chompy (Post 6451998)
Why did you move out? Would you move back? Was it easy? This is relevant btw.

The price the house was offered at was too good to knock back. Cant move back as my parents have since downsized. Was pretty easy as all the financials were sorted without a hassle, moving was straightforward as I didnt have too much to take and could take it in a couple of goes with a van.

But moving house isnt relevant at all to the discussion about a country going independent, parallels can be loosely drawn between the two but are no way indicative of real world scenario.

Manwhore 14th May 2014 14:55

It's a big question to ask up here , iv heard arguments for both sides, most people employed in the financial sector see it as a bad idea but the average joe seems to want it. Most scots are fed up being governed by people in London who don't have a real view into Scotland...but are we better off on our own ? Only time will tell.


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