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steveos_vts 27th October 2006 18:02

FIX FOR !!clunking from front suspension
 
ok here we go i have see a few treads about this.
people complaning about a clunk when turning or on full lock
this is caused by the suspension spring cup coming looses these are originally pressed on which you hay have noticed is the reason im doing this tread as they come loose and need welding
ok not first of all you will need to check for a silver ring around the suspension strut
follow the pictures
located here



and here is it a bit closer


ok next 1 is where the cup is

ok people this is where we get technical (lol)
this is where you will see a silver ring where the cup has moved about causing the knock/clunk and where they need welding





ok now how too

first of all you need the car on axle stand or ramp either will do

remove the wheel
remove the caliper and disc
remove the bottom ball joint nut and bolt and pull out the ball joint
remove the anti roll bar nut (some dont have them)
remove the track rod end nut (from the strut)
and remove the drive shaft nut
undo the 3 13mm from the top mount

now you will have to use some spring compressors and remove the top mount nut remove the mount and spring
now you will HAVE TO REMOVE THE DAMPER because if you get it welded with out removing the damper you could face a nice explosion a guy at work found out the hard way
to get the damper out remove the big gold nut and it will slide out

ok when refitting after its been welded here


put a little engine oil in the strut where the damper goes bit of grease round the thread of the big gold nut holding the damper in and refitt every thing double check its all tight and there you go all done and no knock/clunk

if you having difficualty pm me and im happy to help

if this tread help drop me a rep :)




cheers steve

DevilDamo 27th October 2006 18:09

I'd very much hate to piss on your bonfire mate but I thought this was it...

Knocking front suspension?

steveos_vts 27th October 2006 23:26

no not at all. its completly different noise this noise is when turning and its more metalic
and the other 1 is more of a constant knocking noise

mate im a trained citroen mechanic and have been for the last 5years and done about a million of these common problem on more mk 1 saxo's rather than mk 2 but stiil have the same problem

well any way check both if you have this problem' cant say fairer than that lol

Mitchell 29th October 2006 11:29

thanks for this, helps alot. I shall print it out and slap it on my mechanics forehead to make sure it gets done... been pishin me off all year.

you should do more of these tbh.

Saxoladlesta 29th October 2006 14:23

Good stuff mate

steveos_vts 29th October 2006 18:36

well i can do

any 1 need a how 2 guide drop me a pm and ill try and help

Andyblacksaxo 30th October 2006 18:58

Steveo,

This is quality. Have had a knocking for a couple of months now, and no garage could work it out. Welded the strut up at the weekend, and its cured.

Ur a ledgend. Rep Ur way.

steveos_vts 9th November 2006 20:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andyblacksaxo (Post 731216)
Steveo,

This is quality. Have had a knocking for a couple of months now, and no garage could work it out. Welded the strut up at the weekend, and its cured.

Ur a ledgend. Rep Ur way.


:afro: good to hear buddy love it when im right :P

lizandcoxxy 13th November 2006 19:08

Ive Had That Noise For About 10 Months And No-one Has Been Able To Tell What It Is, So Im Gonna Try This. Hope It Works .

jonesyFX 13th November 2006 19:22

for someone like me who doesnt have a clue bout suspension your guide isnt to good :P lol

cant you do it in more detail ?

b0t13 14th November 2006 00:46

u legend, rep given!

FeArN 14th November 2006 17:31

wouldnt say my clunking its when turning it just seens to do it now and again over bumps ie over a grid just my left side, think this is worth a look though

steveos_vts 14th November 2006 18:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by FeArN (Post 757855)
wouldnt say my clunking its when turning it just seens to do it now and again over bumps ie over a grid just my left side, think this is worth a look though


tbo i would its easy to see if you have a large silver ring around the strut bud

and yes it is probally the reason why it clunking

steveos_vts 14th November 2006 18:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonesyFX (Post 756086)
for someone like me who doesnt have a clue bout suspension your guide isnt to good :P lol

cant you do it in more detail ?

NO!!


i love knowing

FeArN 14th November 2006 22:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by steveos_vts (Post 758006)
tbo i would its easy to see if you have a large silver ring around the strut bud

and yes it is probally the reason why it clunking

cheers ill take a look at the weekend and let u know the outcome

VTSKris 17th December 2006 15:57

Just had a look at my gf's VTR and i think i see a silver ring, i took some pics but they arn't so good.





I know the pics aint the best but does this look like the same problem ?

Cheers

VTSKris 17th December 2006 15:59

Oh and the clunk sound has gone to more of a grinding noise over time. Is this just cause the spring is moving more and easier now or is this a different problem?

Cheers

jazzyc 17th December 2006 19:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by steveos_vts (Post 727701)
no not at all. its completly different noise this noise is when turning and its more metalic
and the other 1 is more of a constant knocking noise

mate im a trained citroen mechanic and have been for the last 5years and done about a million of these common problem on more mk 1 saxo's rather than mk 2 but stiil have the same problem

well any way check both if you have this problem' cant say fairer than that lol

dont fancy doing mine do you?

youre only a few miles down the m4 from me and i am sure i have this problem.

my local mechanics are a waist of space and say they can never find anything

steveos_vts 18th December 2006 17:25

jazzyc look down

steveos_vts 18th December 2006 17:27

VTSKris looking at the pictures yea looks like you may have this problem but PEOPLE please remember the the strut has a rubber shield that also rubs the paint away ok kris to confirm this


get a leaver bar under the spring cup and gently leaver the cup up does it move??

steveos_vts 18th December 2006 17:35

mate i can do it for you but it will probally take a few hours. i will probally find it easyer @ work to do but obviously you wont be paying there prices youll be paying mine:) muchous cheapous.
citroen would charge you £71+vat per hour and book time is 4 hours 2 hours per side plus what ever the body shop charges £30 or £40 almost £400 quid

i do them for £90 that includs all the work and welding as i dont do welding so have to take them to the bodyshop to be done so as you can see muchous cheaper let me know email me as i dont get on here much any more

stevenheselwood@hotmail.com

jazzyc 18th December 2006 18:31

cheers bud, will be back in touch after crimbo

manc 10th January 2007 21:42

My clunk noise comes from the front driverside and is apprant when stationary and moving the steering wheel anti clockwise, it happens at slow speeds also, does this fit the criteria of loose suspension spring cup?

My car is a MK2 VTR 00' X 65k (90bhp engine).

ManC

VTSKris 12th January 2007 17:21

Had another look today and im pretty sure that its not a loose spring cup as it didnt move with a lever bar. The paint that has worn away is the same on both sides an i think its just from the rubber shiled. It sound like it is coming from near the top of the strut. Could it be the top spring cup or is it more likely to be the top mount? Really annoying me now.

leeroybrown 12th January 2007 17:29

i would put money on it being the strut top bearing that aint that much to buy
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VTSKris 12th January 2007 18:48

Cheers mate. I got it booked in on tues but its been in before and he couldnt find a problem. Hope i have better luck this time.

Cheers

manc 12th January 2007 22:13

Keep us posted on your results/findings, I am getting closer to getting a local garage have a look at this very similiar problem also, try and get some images also :p

Could worn shockers aid in this sound also?


ManC

steveos_vts 14th January 2007 14:47

yea could be top mounts what happens is the bearings dry out and become noisey but its no really a clonck more a grinding on turning or when going over bumps you can get a slight clonck

SaxOmniaC 14th January 2007 15:34

top man, gonna check this out cos its been bugging me for 6 months

VTSKris 14th January 2007 17:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by steveos_vts (Post 862784)
yea could be top mounts what happens is the bearings dry out and become noisey but its no really a clonck more a grinding on turning or when going over bumps you can get a slight clonck

Well it started as a clunk but now is more of a grinding noise and happenes on nearly every turn. If this was the problem would it not still do it when the car is jacked up?

Cheers

SAM33R 16th January 2007 03:54

having same problem with my car, its driving me skits!

im getting it booked in to a garage although i would love to have a go myself but not sure what is causing the clunk

i checked my car earlier, got my mate to rock my car on the drivers side and i was looking at the spring, i could hear a pinging/clunking noise

im not sure whether the cup is broken or whether its the droplinks or balljoints

***also to add, when i brake, i get a slight clunk,then when i reverse, and apply the brake, get the clunk again***

could someone having same problem confirm the above? ^^^^***

thanks

sam

VTSKris 16th January 2007 12:04

The problem talked about in this thread is different. This is when people are on full lock or turning. Yours is when the suspension goes up and down and i would say it would be the droplinks. Only cheap to change even if it dont fix it :)

Hope this helps.

Kris

SAM33R 16th January 2007 13:27

so it clunks when only on full lock OR does it clunk when you move the wheel?

thanks

tashavtr 21st February 2007 23:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAM33R (Post 867226)
so it clunks when only on full lock OR does it clunk when you move the wheel?

thanks


sorry to impose on this thread mine clunks on full lock also wen i go over bumps would i be wrong thinking it was one of my front wishbones??

tessan 7th June 2007 19:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by VTSKris (Post 867034)
The problem talked about in this thread is different. This is when people are on full lock or turning. Yours is when the suspension goes up and down and i would say it would be the droplinks. Only cheap to change even if it dont fix it :)

Hope this helps.

Kris

Sorry to bring this back from the dead but this seems like the best thread on the subject.

Having exactly the same prob. Get a series of clunking noises when steering, and not just on full lock. Happens on any degree of rotation; faster I steer the more frequent the clunk.

But as with SAM33R, it does sometimes make a clunk when pulling away from stand still and this sounds very similar to the knocking noise when the droplinks fail ( I've had 4 replaced since ive had the car ) but in this case I dont think its the drop links that are the problem.

Really hope its something simple and not that welding issue :(

UltraSBM 22nd September 2009 17:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by tessan (Post 1219914)
Really hope its something simple and not that welding issue :(

Why not mate? Welding isn't that expensive if you know someone who'll do it outside of the garage.
I'd prefer for something to be a welding issue as it means it's not the part that will need replacing all the time, just a simple matter of bunging fifty notes to a guy down the road who is a welder by day, but does side jobs by night :)

steveos_vts 15th August 2013 22:12

Bump from the grave.


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