More modern engine conversions?
 

Thinking about newer engines that have come out in more recent Citroens/Pug's

Will the C2 VTS engine go in a Saxo. It has 125bhp doesn't it??

How about the engine in the new 207GT its a 1.6 turbo. Are these engines based on the same (TU??) engines that the VTR and VTS have or are they completely different?

Would they fit?

Engine section? probably get a better answer there..

With enough money almost any engine will fit, theres the Zcars people that will put bike engines into saxos and that other place that does the Vtec conversions....

The c2 can go in the saxo and the new 207GT engine would be expensive if you were to find one.

Could anyone move it over or shall I start a new thread over there??

Yeah I realise that engines can bee put in the back with spasse frames etc.

I'm just thinking about easier conversions. Something that goes pretty much straight in without faffing about.

What makes the C2 5bhp more powerful than a Saxo VTS engine??

Yeah I doubt it would be cheap but it'd be a good conversion if it was possible and very tuneable I would imagine. Prolly the conversion of the future.

it has bigger valves for starters but just consider it the same engine with very small tweaks. Not worth getting the full engine for 5bhp. Just use the head

Hmmm not even if I was going to be converting to another engine anyway?? E.G taking the engine out of my VTR?

i have heard of people dropping a C2 engine into their saxo before, on a couple of occasions actually, but im not sure if any 'extra' work was needed to make the baby fit snug under the bonnet! they will deffinately fit though!

Also why has the C2/C3 GT/VTR only got 110 from the same 1.6 16V?

207GT engine is a diesel!! performance isnt too hot

Ur jokin I though it was a petrol! Oh well that sucks LOL

nothing wrong with diesel engines look at the golf gti tdi it flies quite a few manufacturers are using diesles in performance cars now but as for the 207 gt its wank i'd avoid it like the plague

yeah i wasn't dissin' diesels, was just saying the 207's engine is crap!

Are you sure its diesel. I'm talkin bout the 1.6 turbo thats been co-built with BMW

This:

not just the engine the whole car is shite puegeot have seriously lost the plot

no its diesel, was in last months lax flower

peugeot are doing something wierd, must be something in the water!

So they're doing a 110bhp HDI a 150bhp HDI and then there's gunna be a more powerful version in the GTI next year!!

Hmm. Interesting thread.

Diesels are becoming very popular to tune. Just look at the Audi R8 diesel that won Le Mans.

Diesel engines are the future (apparently) they respond better to tuning.

its all about the torque

torque makes a car quick
bhp sells a car

Exactly. BHP figures are wank really. Just for pub talk or people who read AutoCar.

Torque is where it is at!

Yup tourque is what you need day to day power is generally at high RPM which is never used. Thats where diesels excel because of the tourque.

Anyone know if the 1.6 hdi would fit in a saxo/106? (Thoughts of very quick series 1 106 diesel are now formulating)

my dads A6 3.0TDI is torquey as fuck! it feels much faster than his SLK 350 tbh, but its just because you feel the torque so much more from a diesel engine!

207 gt does comes in 1.6 turbo 150bhp petrol variety.

its petrol. its a brand new bmw engine out of the new mini cooper

its not a bmw engine, PSA developed it with BMW for the new mini hence why its appearing in teh new 207 as well. New 207 gti uses a 180/5 version of it apparently

milder cam profile I think

And different throttle body.

Looking seriously into it in 2008 dude.

I'd think the 1.6 HDI might be too big/heavy though. even though in standard form it produces 110bhp. or 140bhp superchiped (+£500 - bargin)

They do a 1.4 16v which produces 92bhp standard, again superchipping would see over 115bhp.

anyway...

peugeots.. wtf is going on with them... there isnt a single car in their current line i like.

Turbo cars respond well to Superchips. I think they just up the boost slightly.

and piss about with the ignition timings too :)

i wouldnt agree. me granda has a 407 1.4 d, its a 1.4 and its diesel, its a miser on juice, peugeot/citroen made ok diesel engines in the past, ie berlingo and partner sold like hotbuns over here and are very common. Thats for a reason:y:

wasnt slating diesels when i said that mate i was slating peugeot in general for copping out and building middle of the road pissy warm hatches like most companies are doing thesedays

the 150 bhp turbo 207 gt is built to compete with the likes of the mini cooper and the fiesta st both of which are cheaper than the 207 and the fiesta is quicker than it.also both the mini and the fiesta are nicer looking cars and imo have a nicer interior

and when they bring the 27 gti out it'll be up against the cars like the 197 clio so it'll probally flop aswell

true. the PSA range of engines are up their among the best and they have a huge wealth of engineering talent. Just somehow when they come to designing the chassis it's as they go 'how can we make this proper shite???'

i agree the golf tdi is a flier,my ex's mum has 1 with a amd chip what a mega difference it makes cudnt believe it!!!

sorry lads bit of a hijack but with the two vts engines being very similar does anyone know if the throttlebody one each angine is the same?

please reply ye olde saxo gods!

i thought the only made 1 vts engine

was vtr what the changed

He on about the saxo vts and the c2 vts engines.

No i read somewhere that there different and i dont think you can swap the throttle boddie over between saxo and c2, Not a straight swap anyway

c2 vts and saxo vts 'bodies are different, c2 vts is a bsi unit, so when doing c2 vts engine into a saxo the saxo 'body is used but is the head has to be redrilled and tapped to accept it as the bolts dont line up.

is that the only difference?./ the bolt holes having to be drilled and tapped? the reason i ask is i was going to include the c2 vts on my ebay throttlebody listings but mention that there are slight mods to be made