I fitted the heavier wheels, bumper and wing. that way you can add alot more plus strip excess weight with the weight reduction.

Heavier wheels, bumper and wing? So you've added weight and increased drag and can't work out why you're going slower? :P

two sides to every coin :P

Means can add other, more valueable items. Also can adjust downforce. Plus the weight you add with the wheels you can take off in other areas. and the wheels bring other benefits too.

Thing is though, the car is balanced well enough as standard. Ideally you just want to get rid of as much weight as possible without messing with anything else.

Even though you're changing downforce, you've got 2 whacking great extra bits on your car that create extra drag which isn't needed which will just make you slower than the standard car.

You dont need at all to play with downforce, its a clio not an 800bhp monster....

Will make it slower trust me!!

Best with leaving wheels etc std, adding an LSD, Race Brakes, Race Flywheel etc etc.....:)

That lap time is pretty quick Mark fair play!

Just had my first crack in a completly standard 197. 9.50 LOL.

Better get some practice in!

Cheers mate!! :y:

2 laps and best i got was 9.30ish

bought forza espeacially for this, not anywhere near as good as the gran turismo series on PS

Get the fuck out! :D

Gran Turismo is absolute shite compared to Forza 2 and that's coming from someone who has played every single GT to death.

forza dicks all over gran turismo

FFS Mark! Right, King Cobra it is then! Bet you don't know that one!!! {hopes...}

;)

no, no, no, NO, NO! you are soooo wrong its unbeeeelieveeeeable!

i dont want to hijack this thread so let this be the last on it. i suppose we'll have to agree to disagree. ;)

GT takes a big fat dump on forza chest.

Tell you what, give us 3 reasons why GT is better than Forza 2, and you're not aloud to mention graphics as that's a given.

Good track that, and i guarantee he'll know it.

physics is better on forza. and surely thats what its all about.

also, is that the new track? loving teh 197!!1

tbh ive only spent about an hour on forza so i cant really make any sort of judgement yet. but so far, i think the graphics are a little bit shit, and it just doesnt 'feel' right.

It doesn't feel right because you're used to that absolute garbage that is GT :P

Press up on the D-Pad whilst you're racing, that feature alone is better than tall of the GT games put together!

whats your gamer tags?

ill add you

Penneth although I'm not on much, give us a shout if you're gonna go on.

probs tomorrow sometime.

im kennc005

kenn? lol

first 4 letters of my surname

Just out of interest who has the fastest lap on the 'ring ? - (No limitations on car)