but they're phones are good for everything but using as a phone ;)

Had one since the original iphone. I could get over the fact that it didn't even do MMS or had a crap camera since I rarely used those features at the time. Same for various platform support (flash). I thought Apple would introduce this in time, since there policy is focus more of making it appealing to morons and then add the technology at a later date. At the time the phone was way out there in terms of features and usability.

But after taking up the contract for the 3gs and discovering that that donkey wanking shit eater Jobs won't let the mainstay platforms that populate the web and most websites on the iPhone, iPad or iTouch, well frankly, that is iFuckingBollocks. There is no reason not to have it other than $$$$$$'s.

And for that reason Apple and that 2 bob assmuncher Jobs can do one.

Sales means nothing...
VHS vs Beatamax - which was better...? Which had the higher sales?
Firewire vs USB - which was better...? Which had the higher sales?

There are endless cases of inferior products being the most popular - iPhone included.

We've established they ain't.

You take this debate way too serious. And we havnt established anything as you wanted to do benchmarking. There is no programme that benchmarks both macs and Pcs. Also your PC is overclocked which isnt standard, Also Super PI only bases figures purely on processing power. Find one that benchmarks everything including graphics etc.

If you want to benchmark it you could use this;

http://www.primatelabs.ca/geekbench/

Very few cross platform benchmarks, I found two.

That one doesn't do 3D/graphic performance by the looks of it which is a shame. If someone else gives it a punt though I might be more motivated.

Happy to pitch my comp against anything - mac's can be overclocked too so I don't see what the fuss is about mine being clocked.

Anyway to lighten the mood...

South park FTW!.

Check this one out

you forgot HD DVD vs Bluray. More or less sweet revenge for Sony (read the betamax court case)

This picture made me laugh;



Even Tottenham looters didn't want a mac :D

hahaha holy shiiiit. You read the daily Fail?


probably because of the chances of getting busted while using a stolen mac.

LOL at the pic.

Although more than likely to be the fact that stores put better security on high value items/A mac is too hard to set up for someone in such an uneducated part of the uk haha