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Harv 26th September 2008 18:12

GUIDE: Fitting a rev counter into a mk1 1.0/1.1
 
As some models of mk1 1.0 and 1.1 don't have a rev counter this can prove pretty annoying. I have the solution though, its quite easy too :P. I don't have any picture but look at the wiring diagram at the bottom of the page and will explain a step by step guide on how to do it.

1) First of all, you can either buy an aftermarket tachometer that can be placed anywhere you like. Option 2 is to buy some new dials (mine cost £20 from ebay) from a mk1 saxo. Think mine was from a 1.1sx as it doesn't have a temperature gage but just a light (basically its exactly the same as your original dials but it has a rev counter instead of the massive clock).

Guide for replacing Dials
- (scroll down for aftermarket Tachometer)

2) Unplug your battery and wait around 20-30 mins so the airbag can be removed (the airbag may go off if you do it straight away as it holds a charge).

3) Remove the steering wheel by this guide by Mark51 (great guide) http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...38#post2466438.

4) You will now see 5 plugs on the back of your dials, from left to right - green, blue, white, yellow and brown. You only need to unplug the yellow plug.

5) Now, with around 2-3m lenth of wire, feed this through the grommet under the passenger side dash. This can be found here under the dash, its a black rubber grommet than can be quite hard to remove (use a flat head screw driver and prise it out). If you use a torch you will easily see it.

6) Feed the wire through and then you will now see this wire in the engine bay (at the back of the bay on your right side). Pull through enough wire so it can be routed around the engine bay to your ECU.

7) With the battery still disconnected, you will see a silver clip keeping the ECU plug in place. Flick this from where it is towards the back of the car. Now it should become loose but you have to pull it out from back of the engine bay first as there are 'hooks' holding it in place at the front. Also, undo the wrap on the wiring so you can push the black housing up to gain access to the wires in Step 8!!

8) You will now see a small screw on the right side of the plug at the front, undo this and push a nail through the whole. The brown connection of the plug should now prise out and you will see the wires. Your looking for a bright green wire (there are a few) but your after the one that connects to PIN 6 (you can see the numbers on the brown connection block that the wires are connected into).

9) Locate PIN 6 and check the wire has number 425 on it. Now, cut this wire and strip each side. You can either use a connection block but I found it hard to put the ECU plug back together with this OR you can solder the 3 wires (solder the wire you put through into the engine bay to the cut green wires). I twisted them together first as its easier. Tape this all up now and push the brown connection block into the black casing. Took me a while to get how it works but I got it - just look at the housing first as one side of the brown block needs to go in before the other).

10) Put the screw back in and this is job done. Connect the ECU plug back to the ECU itself, and clip it black in with the silver clip.

11) You now need to go inside the car and feed the wire you've wired to the ECU behind the dash, I just fed mine to the steering column then up behind the dials (or to aftermarket tachometer).

12) Disconnect the yellow plug from the dials (second from right). You will see each PIN is numbered on this too (1-8). Splice into the brown wire connected to PIN 1 . I used a connector block for this, strip both sides of the cut brown wire and twist the wire coming from the ECU into one of the sides. Connect this to a connector block and remember to put the other end of the brown wire into this.

13) Put everything back in (dials, dial surround, indicator pannel, steering wheel, airbag etc.

14) Connect battery again and start the engine. You should now see the revs working.

15) Tidy up the wire in the engine bay and make sure its not touching anything that gets hot.

Aftermarket Tacho


Do steps: 2, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 14 and 15.

Obviously just wire it to the tachometer if your not fitting complete dials.

Job done!!! :afro:. This is a very detailed guide and no where near as complicated as it looks, took me around 30 minutes to do (but i'm a pro in removing my dials lmao!).

Wiring diagram for reference:

Aaron 26th September 2008 18:34

pics of aftermarket tacho?

Harv 26th September 2008 18:37

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Originally Posted by aterro (Post 2556987)
pics of aftermarket tacho?

Something like this although this has a shift light. I'd prefer the normal dials tbh, looks a lot better!

gsavill90 26th September 2008 19:03

This is amazing. Cheers :D

I now have life..

Harv 26th September 2008 19:06

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Originally Posted by gsavill90 (Post 2557068)
This is amazing. Cheers :D

I now have life..

Woooo get in!!! It worked for you too - this guide is fool proof ;). Easy wasn't it bud!

gsavill90 26th September 2008 19:10

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Originally Posted by Harv (Post 2557077)
Woooo get in!!! It worked for you too - this guide is fool proof ;). Easy wasn't it bud!

I would rep you more :D but i cant :(

Sneakydevil89 27th September 2008 11:31

EDIT: never mind just read your reply to my thread! ill have a go! cheers!

Sneakydevil89 27th September 2008 22:33

RIGHT! THIS GUIDE IS RUBBISH!
haha no its not, but iv run into a snag. Can't get the bloody ECU plug out. The whole putting the nail in the hole thing has stumped me and i cant get it off its clips.

Here's a pic just to show you what i mean if you dont already know...



^thats not my hand haha

Also im checking this is the grommit your talking about yeah?


Any chance you could get a picture up of your ECU with the new wire in it, so i know what im aiming for.

So any help with that would be super!
Cheers mate

gsavill90 28th September 2008 03:13

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Originally Posted by Sneakydevil89 (Post 2559833)

If you've got the metal clip loose then great.. If not i think the bottom end of it, that's clipped into the actual ECU unit needs to be pushed towards the bulkhead.. Then it should pivot around a little clip at the front end of the ECU unit. If you pull it right round on this clip it will eventually lift free. Then with it unplugged you need to take off the rubber bit that seals the wires in.. and under there are two screws. Undo them, then undo the other screw.. push a nail through and it should work.
Sorry if that was just a big disorganised mess... maybe someone else can put it better :D

Sneakydevil89 28th September 2008 10:45

a little bit of a mess lol but i appreciate the help. I probably wont get a chance to do this today, but i like to know what im doing before i start.

wait...just to check, you push the nail through after you've disconnected the plug?

gsavill90 28th September 2008 10:48

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Originally Posted by Sneakydevil89 (Post 2560439)
a little bit of a mess lol but i appreciate the help. I probably wont get a chance to do this today, but i like to know what im doing before i start.

wait...just to check, you push the nail through after you've disconnected the plug?

yes. First you need to remove the plug from the socket. Then you need to take the plug apart. This is done by removing that screw and pushing a nail through it.
You may be finding it difficult to take the plug out because you've already taken out the screw which holds it together.. i dunno.

Sneakydevil89 28th September 2008 11:28

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Originally Posted by gsavill90 (Post 2560443)
yes. First you need to remove the plug from the socket. Then you need to take the plug apart. This is done by removing that screw and pushing a nail through it.
You may be finding it difficult to take the plug out because you've already taken out the screw which holds it together.. i dunno.

yeah that is a possibility, well ill give it a go later on when i get the car back frmo my girlfriends anyway and report back!

Sneakydevil89 4th October 2008 11:42

finsihed fitting my rev counter today and for the record this guide is simply amazing!
top work yet again

james2oo8 5th October 2008 00:08

this doesnt work for me ,what am i doing wrong ? :(

im trying to use an aftermarket tachometer?

gsavill90 5th October 2008 00:35

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Originally Posted by james2oo8 (Post 2581814)
this doesnt work for me ,what am i doing wrong ? :(

im trying to use an aftermarket tachometer?

Maybe the pinouts for the 106 ECU is different. I know the SPI 1.1 engine ECU is different to the 1.1 MPI ECU... i dunno.

james2oo8 5th October 2008 10:30

Hmm ok. Mines an Spi. 1.1?

gsavill90 5th October 2008 10:49

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Originally Posted by james2oo8 (Post 2582448)
Hmm ok. Mines an Spi. 1.1?

I dunno then..
If you've found a green wire with the number 425 on it coming from pin 6 in the ECU then the problem must be somewhere other than the signal..

james2oo8 5th October 2008 15:01

hmm you rekon so?

well we was doing it on my mates, but both the same engine and car basicaly :)

was definatley green wire with 425 on it tho :)

gsavill90 5th October 2008 15:21

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Originally Posted by james2oo8 (Post 2583141)
hmm you rekon so?

well we was doing it on my mates, but both the same engine and car basicaly :)

was definatley green wire with 425 on it tho :)

It should work.. It's probably a wiring problem somewhere else.
I've got no experience with aftermarket tachos.. so i don't really know what you'd have to do. You've got the right feed wire though.. and that's the tricky bit :y:

james2oo8 5th October 2008 15:22

what u rekon the earth or something?

but surely if it was that then the thing wouldnt light up or do anything?


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