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saxosuper1600 16th November 2013 19:33

BE3 and BE4 gearbox difference?
 
Hi all:

I just wanted to know whats the difference between the BE3 and BE4 gearbox because i want to swap my saxo turbo MA gearbox and i dont know which one to choose... which one is better and from which cars are both of them? thanks a lot bye!

tweeqd 16th November 2013 21:18

Be1, be3 and be3/6 have an xubellhousing

Be4 have the tu bellhousing

The be4 bellhousing is what you need then can mix and match the internals even fitting the 6 speed be3/6

saxosuper1600 16th November 2013 21:29

OK, thanks one last question i know in a left hand drive saxo you can use the 306 1.8 16v shaft on the driver side, but do you know which model do i need to find to use the other side as a plug and play or i have to modify it? thanks a lot.

welshpug 16th November 2013 21:32

BE4 also have an XU/XUD bellhousing, and a DW, and an EP, and EW, and DV.


its not as simple as saying you need a BE4 box, you need the one with the correct bellhousing, which will be from a TU engined vehicle.

as for gear ratios, that can be sorted afterwards.

saxosuper1600 16th November 2013 21:36

Ok the idea is to get a BE who was coupled with a TU engine in my case or XU engine in other cases to match the engine block holes. (Plug and play in some sorts)

axsaxoman 17th November 2013 08:30

peugoet partner .berlingo ,piccasso --fitted eith tu5 engine
early piccasso +pug partner have cable clutch --later ones have hydraulic

welshpug 17th November 2013 10:00

c4, 307, 308, probably quite a few more.

sexy_gt 24th November 2013 19:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by welshpug (Post 6389658)
c4, 307, 308, probably quite a few more.

None of those are cable operated are they?

I am looking for one not having any luck.

raunchz 24th November 2013 20:53

I might have a be box (to fit tu engine) and cable shift setup in bournemouth that i can bring upto my home in Leamington spa.

Not 100% if still got it but would need to check.

sexy_gt 24th November 2013 20:59

I have satchift but the box would be great...

welshpug 25th November 2013 08:32

Any of them can be converted to cable easily.

sexy_gt 25th November 2013 12:02

Really? I asked atspeed and they said they never heard of one being converted. So can you share any info?

Ross 25th November 2013 12:05

Several were cable out of the factory. Parts are available on service box. I looked at it a while ago for a sequential conversion.

Edit - I may have misread - I'm talking about cable shift not clutch operation. Apologies.

welshpug 25th November 2013 15:48

either clutch or shifting can be converted to cable, xsara picasso was cable shift, I've got the parts off a picasso gearbox as it will have a satchsift fitted.


afaik you can't use factory cable shift in a saxo/106 due to the shape of the bulkhead and position of the steering arms.


have a look on servicebox.

Ross 25th November 2013 16:36

Yeah my original plan was to convert to cable shift, and from there sequential using a cable/sequential adapter - but I've given up on that route for a while as other plans have got in the way.

I think with the sequential leaver the routing issue will be overcome.

sexy_gt 25th November 2013 17:55

Im just talking about the clutch :)

welshpug 25th November 2013 20:16

you either didn't explain to them clearly or whoever you were talking to doesn't have a clue, as Atspeed include the cable type clutch fork in their conversion kit (its an o.e part available from a pug/citroen dealer)

sexy_gt 25th November 2013 23:04

Rang atspeed saturday... said im having no luck finding a cable clutch operated be box.. i asked is it possible to convert a hydraulic one to cable. Reply was not that we know of.

welshpug 26th November 2013 14:59

err.

ok

LMAO.

See the fork with the white balljoint cup?





yeah, LOL, 2117 58, £30 from a dealer.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CLUTCH-FOR...-/330843711937

£17 posted from neat autos.

sexy_gt 26th November 2013 17:21

I have bought the above kit last tuesdy. Yet to be delivered.


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