[Harv]

Definitely agree with John about this one. I've had the old track car thing and been through that stage. Saving 10kg's here and there is bollocks! Get out there, do 20+ track days and learn how to handle a car before saving kg's. A standard saxo driven by an experienced driver will be faster than ANY lightened saxo! I've seen near standard saxo VTR's pass throttlebodied and caged VTS's that look like every panel has been cut out of them, simply because the driving ability isn't there.

Everytime I've been to Anglesey I've become quicker and quicker. Braking was pretty much as late as it could be with my brake setup and I was lapping 'track VTS's' quite easily. For the amount you will have to spend taking the heater out and replacing it with something suitable - get some tuition! On a race car or hill climb car its a different scenario!