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10th August 2012, 14:03
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Thinking of getting my VTR cammed.
Hello, im wanting to get my VTR cammed, here is my list so far;
Newmans PH3 Fast road cams
POWERFLEX BUSHES BUSH KIT CITROEN SAXO + VTR
Citroen Saxo Phase 1 Bilstein Rear B8 Sprint Damper B36-2075 x2
Citroen Saxo Phase 1 Bilstein Front B8 Sprint Damper Insert P30-3059 x2
Citroen saxo phase 1 Spax 40mm springs
OMP FRONT UPPER RED STRUT BRACE CITROEN SAXO 1.6 8v VTR
Quickshift Gearstick And Surround
OMP 6 Point Bolt In Rollcage
Cobra bucket seats
OMP 3" harness's
OMP steering wheel
About getting my car cammed,
I understand i need the Newmans PH3 Fast road cams, is there anything else i need to get?
Is it right that i buy the cams, take them to a professional garrage & get them to install them & remap the car, is that all? Thank you.
Also does this sound about right;
Citroen Saxo Phase 1 Bilstein Front B8 Sprint Damper Insert P30-3059 - x2 - £223
Citroen Saxo Phase 1 VTR Bilstein Rear B8 Sprint Damper B36-2075 - x2 - £176
POWERFLEX BUSHES BUSH KIT CITROEN SAXO + VTR VTS FURIO - £128
Last edited by elkoi; 10th August 2012 at 14:05.
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10th August 2012, 14:06
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i have a catcam 4901202 in mine and its fan for over a year without a map fine with reasonable gains. but a remap is on the cards very soon.
also if your buying all that kit and having a pro fit it, get a vernier pully and get that dialed in perfect for maximum benefit
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10th August 2012, 14:35
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well when i got my vts cammed i changed the cambelt and water pump to  and it will run fine untill you get a map, but you don't see full potential without a map. you might need a cam seal to
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10th August 2012, 14:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by slimwiltaz
well when i got my vts cammed i changed the cambelt and water pump to  and it will run fine untill you get a map, but you don't see full potential without a map. you might need a cam seal to 
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true for the price and peace of mind get the cam and aux belt changed aswell as the water pump done
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10th August 2012, 18:18
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Ok thanks (Y)
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10th August 2012, 18:28
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youll need a head gasket set as well..as the head needs to come off to fit the cam
imo its a waste of time camming a vtr..i cammed mine, lots of money for very little difference
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10th August 2012, 18:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blackie_2k5
youll need a head gasket set as well..as the head needs to come off to fit the cam
imo its a waste of time camming a vtr..i cammed mine, lots of money for very little difference
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did you get a good dyno run when you cammed yours? did you get an accurate figure? curious to what the run cammed
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10th August 2012, 18:36
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So its a waste of time? how can i get more power out of my Vtr then without turboing it.
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10th August 2012, 18:58
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Never got round to getting it mapped mate
You'd be very lucky to see a genuine 130bhp from a healthy cammed and mapped vtr
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10th August 2012, 18:59
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So its a waste of time? how can i get more power out of my Vtr then without turboing it.
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Only way to get fecent power is turbo really, be better off spending the £300-400 on a cammed vts conversion
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10th August 2012, 19:59
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So its a waste of time? how can i get more power out of my Vtr then without turboing it.
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not being funny if you want decent power and you dont want to go boost then i would give up and not do anything to it, to get good power it costs a lot of money end of, as said spend £300 on a vts conversion imo that is the only thing you can do to any 8v saxos to get fairly good power cheap, as that isnt 'engine tuning' hence why its cheap
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10th August 2012, 20:01
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So a turbo is the way forward?
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10th August 2012, 20:07
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yes
but it dont come cheap mate
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10th August 2012, 20:13
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So a turbo is the way forward?
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if you want good power out of an 8v yes
if you want good power cheap then no
all depends if your one of these 8v faggots (blackie  and think they are somehow better than a 16v  if you arent one of these siad people do an engine conversion, doing engine swaps is piss easy compared to tuning an engine, conversions put a lot of people off as they think its a huge job, but its simply dissconnect everything pull out, put new one in and conenct it all back up again, its just all hoses, clips and pipes easyyy
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10th August 2012, 20:15
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if you want good power out of an 8v yes
if you want good power cheap then no
all depends if your one of these 8v faggots (blackie  and think they are somehow better than a 16v  if you arent one of these siad people do an engine conversion, doing engine swaps is piss easy compared to tuning an engine, conversions put a lot of people off as they think its a huge job, but its simply dissconnect everything pull out, put new one in and conenct it all back up again, its just all hoses, clips and pipes easyyy
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Theres no need to be nasty to me!!
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10th August 2012, 20:17
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see the white writing
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10th August 2012, 22:29
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Going for the turbo ;]
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