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Old 3rd December 2010, 10:36   #1
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Default Saxo VTR Coming, What should i Do?

Right ive decided that i'm going to get a VTR after christmas, Ill have about £3500 for The car, any mods and Insurance (Which is gonna hurt cos im 17) By janurary.

I'll be spending about 1500 on the car.

Im totally new to the modifying scene as ive only got a 1.25 fiesta at the moment, So i dont know what mods will give me what i want.

I'll be getting the Raceland Enclosed Induction, But also want a decent groan from the exhaust, Id like the raspy sound that rally cars have if this is possible? Not really Desperate for a ton power straight away as im more about ICE for now.

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Old 3rd December 2010, 10:42   #2
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If you are insuring a VTR at 17, you will need the £3500 just for the insurance

Anyway, a raceland is a good start. Supersprint 2" system. 4-2-1 manifold. That should get you some nice noise
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I might have to be an Occasional Driver Wink

Its ok, if its too bad ill just pay it monthly
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Strip out the interior. Saxos are too cramped for friends in the back anyway!

As stated above, induction and exhaust upgrades and a decent suspension set up you'll have a cracking little car!
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best way for you mate is to get a free vtr lol as insurance will be around £3500 and it aint worth risking on your mum or dads bud ive got a 1.4 saxo furio with the rear stripped out and cat back exhaust and enclosed induction and ive got the exhaust and enclosed induction on the insurance and im paying £2k and im 18 but im new to the road so have no ncb bonus
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Yeah good luck insuring a VTR at 17.

I am 23 and pay 900 with 0 NCB.

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Yeah good luck insuring a VTR at 17.

I am 23 and pay 900 with 0 NCB.

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damm and you are a girl i take it by your name ?
insurance is not gunna be good for this lad at all then
i remember like last year i looked at quotes for a vtr when i was 17 and i was getting quotes of £1600 fully comp on my own policy with breakdown cover and free windscreen cover and legal cover damm its gone bad
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Insurance for my mates VTR was 1500 named driver in February when he was 17 and just passed, and his area code has higher risk than mine so i was hoping for around the same amount?
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Insurance has gone up massively since then mate.

Also, having your car insured under someone else's name with you as a named driver, but only you using the car is illegal, and will void your insurance
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Insurance for my mates VTR was 1500 named driver in February when he was 17 and just passed, and his area code has higher risk than mine so i was hoping for around the same amount?
you will be lucky im 21 1ncb and im getting about the 3k mark
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Most of Leeds has a high risk code

LS Leeds
1-13, 15-16, 19, 26-27 . . .. . . . . . . . . . F *
14, 18, 28 . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . E *
17, 21-23 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C
20, 25 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . D *
24 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . A
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Most of Leeds has a high risk code

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1-13, 15-16, 19, 26-27 . . .. . . . . . . . . . F *
14, 18, 28 . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . E *
17, 21-23 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C
20, 25 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . D *
24 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . A
29 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . B
yeah im F* lmao.

still though its a lot of money, and i ultimately have no control of what goes on around here...
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damm and you are a girl i take it by your name ?
insurance is not gunna be good for this lad at all then
i remember like last year i looked at quotes for a vtr when i was 17 and i was getting quotes of £1600 fully comp on my own policy with breakdown cover and free windscreen cover and legal cover damm its gone bad
Yes. In my name.

I do have no claims but I use them on my civic which I pay £1100 (just got my renewal gone up £200!!) aswell but that with 4 years NCB.

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hi to all...
from 17 - 20 the insurance stings everyone nower days. (rite first im not pro, i cant even drive yet, but i was brought up building engines all i can tell u is what i know!!)
rite what you want are individual throttle bodies (£80-£300), ecu remaping (Free-£600) (free because i work for a electronics company for motorcycles and vtech kit cars) 4-2-1 manifold should give out a smashing backfire at high revs (price veryies) then a 35psi turbo charger with chrome intercooler and dump valve for extra 8-12bhp (should cost £700-£2000 depending if you wanna risk using ebay) from a 102bhp to 240-320bhp maybe more depending if you set the turbo timing and dump timing rite!!
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from 17 - 20 the insurance stings everyone nower days. (rite first im not pro, i cant even drive yet, but i was brought up building engines all i can tell u is what i know!!)
rite what you want are individual throttle bodies (£80-£300), ecu remaping (Free-£600) (free because i work for a electronics company for motorcycles and vtech kit cars) 4-2-1 manifold should give out a smashing backfire at high revs (price veryies) then a 35psi turbo charger with chrome intercooler and dump valve for extra 8-12bhp (should cost £700-£2000 depending if you wanna risk using ebay) from a 102bhp to 240-320bhp maybe more depending if you set the turbo timing and dump timing rite!!
I think throttle boddies will cost upwards of £500 even second hand and I believe you need a different ECU to run them.
I dont know a great deal about turbos admittedly but I dont think a turbo which fits a saxo will run at 35psi...could be wrong?

I think a 4-2-1 mani and straight through exhaust would be a good start
Turboing is going to cost a minimum of 2k for a reliable setup and thats without forged internals
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35psi would punch out only about 5-8psi on a 1.1l, wheres you can adjust and time all tht through manual adjusters. dont need new ecu just a remap programme!
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Most of Leeds has a high risk code

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14, 18, 28 . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . E *
17, 21-23 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C
20, 25 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . D *
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thats the biggest load of shit i ever read.
im 23 with no no claims and i drive a vtr insured for £400
and a ek9 civic type r and pay £600

and i ive in leeds 27
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thats the biggest load of shit i ever read.
im 23 with no no claims and i drive a vtr insured for £400
and a ek9 civic type r and pay £600

and i ive in leeds 27
He did say most not all grandad..
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I paid 700 on my vts first time, 20 with 0ncd and a dr10 on my license
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Insurance has gone up. At 17 you will be lucky to insure a VTR. When I was 17, Quinn direct were the best place.

I would say £2.5k+ to insure a VTR, steer clear till your 18 at least!
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