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24th September 2012, 15:30
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Fair enough, do you know how they differ and what would the ballpark figure be if the customer has a base engine?
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25th September 2012, 00:53
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Fair enough, do you know how they differ and what would the ballpark figure be if the customer has a base engine?
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A jp4 engine is around £250? That's probably around 2% of the total build cost
The race TB's are slightly larger and matched to the head, if you read through Sandys posts over the last few pages he pretty much covers everything for you
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25th September 2012, 09:02
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A jp4 engine is around £250? That's probably around 2% of the total build cost
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That's shocked me, about £12500 for the engine is a lot less than what I thought it would be!
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25th September 2012, 11:35
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That's shocked me, about £12500 for the engine is a lot less than what I thought it would be!
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Exactly, its a bargain when you consider the work that goes into making an engine that no other engine builder in the Uk can achieve
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25th September 2012, 21:15
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Originally Posted by jpsaxo
Exactly, its a bargain when you consider the work that goes into making an engine that no other engine builder in the Uk can achieve 
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Its great what Sandy is doing but ive also seen very interesting figures from people in the Rally community (especially over in ireland).
I cant really see there being much more room for improvement from these engines mind. We are probably as close to the max figures we will ever see.
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25th September 2012, 23:52
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Its great what Sandy is doing but ive also seen very interesting figures from people in the Rally community (especially over in ireland).
I cant really see there being much more room for improvement from these engines mind. We are probably as close to the max figures we will ever see.
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Are you referring to the JRE engines that are in Ireland?
I'd imagine we are heading towards the maximum figure, but Sandys still striving for even better so you never know. There's about 5% between the RR figure and what the engines actualy capable of on the Engine dyno - I plan to open up the scuttle slightly to allow better air flow to the middle two cylinders and see if that helps
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26th September 2012, 00:54
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Originally Posted by jpsaxo
Are you referring to the JRE engines that are in Ireland?
I'd imagine we are heading towards the maximum figure, but Sandys still striving for even better so you never know. There's about 5% between the RR figure and what the engines actualy capable of on the Engine dyno - I plan to open up the scuttle slightly to allow better air flow to the middle two cylinders and see if that helps 
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Theres a few independents that have got good power.
Its a shame that QEP and everything went to shit, as the dyno testing they were doing with Dave from Pumaspeed was proving very interesting.
No scuttle FTW
http://www.106rallyeforum.com/forum2...highlight=maxi - incase not read this, an interesting read on both his figures/the final production ones from oreca.
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