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4th December 2012, 07:40
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Originally Posted by AXracing
Not really. Its a sad story but driving like this will get people killed and people have to learn this hopefully before they kill someone. The simple fact is if we where driving like that we where lucky to have not killed anyone. Yes its sad to have happened but such sad times are totally avoidable. The only thing you can do is condemn such actions and hope other people learn before doing the same there self.
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Completely agree with everything you've said. I do however think other people's comments are harsh and I suspect more than a bit hypocritical. I'm sure everyone on this thread has driven over 100mph on more than one occasion and maybe even in the wet. A bit like an ex smoker judging other smokers springs to mind!
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4th December 2012, 08:28
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You play with matches you get burned. I'm glad they didn't wrap themselves around a family car full of family.
Reminds me of this idiot: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...Newcastle.html. Sorry about the daily mail link but at the end of the day, 140 upwards is pushing it far beyond the safe limit. You're supposed to slow down when it's cold and wet.
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4th December 2012, 08:47
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one of them looked to be an autovogue due to the gash wheels
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4th December 2012, 09:29
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Could have been a chase or anything as someone mentioned earlier, especially as a fight broke out following the incident!!
People go on about 140mph, doing that you deserve to die etc.
It's so easy to clock 140mph without even thinking about it in a decent car, granted most peoples saxos on here start falling apart and swaying when they hit 70 so they base it on that...
I'd feel more comfortable in my car doing 140 than i did in my saxo at 90.. and that's the truth...
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4th December 2012, 09:38
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Originally Posted by logic_guy
And what Nationality will they be?
They have speed camera's on the Gantry's and they DO work. Surely they can review these pictures to clarify the speeds.
I have no symphony for them. Too fast and in the wet. They made me late for work too.
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Just to please you logic_guy...
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The men involved are understood to be from the Bangladeshi or Pakistani community in east London.
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Go Compare guy also would get it.
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4th December 2012, 10:37
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Originally Posted by mlawlan69
for what good?
seriously, they were being cunts, they were racing, they crashed, killed themselves and luckily no innocent party was injured.
but for this, thousands, i dare say hundreds of thousands of people were effected!
what's the outcome of said "forensic" fucking evidence going to change?
FUCK ALL.
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I've seen a LOT of utter tripe posted on these forums, but this stands out as possibly the most uneducated, blinkered, selfish and bigoted things I've ever read on saxp. Well done. 
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4th December 2012, 10:46
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People like this really fucking fuck me off. His driving capability consists of a right foot and an accelerator peddle, he must be Jason fucking Plato then.
I hope his family get abuse off the other families, stupid fucking cunt.
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4th December 2012, 10:50
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Originally Posted by griff_106
Fair one, but my point was that such young drivers in such powerful cars racing one another would probably mean they nicked them or dipped into the bank of Mummy and Daddy to buy the cars in the first place.
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You can get E60 5 series from 5k upwards. Not exactly a car that someone whos 22 or whatever has to nick or dip into parents pockets to own.
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4th December 2012, 12:35
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Originally Posted by mlawlan69
nah, you're clearly the one trying to troll here.
when did i ever say "stop investigating deaths" what im trying to put across is the whole thing was dragged out for 11 hours longer than it should have been.
racing
crashed
dead.
takes no expert to work that shit out, so why the need for "forensics"
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Really? People are actually this stupid?
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Originally Posted by Ross
I've seen a LOT of utter tripe posted on these forums, but this stands out as possibly the most uneducated, blinkered, selfish and bigoted things I've ever read on saxp. Well done. |
Not the worst thing i've read, but deffo up there...
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Originally Posted by Mochachino
You can get E60 5 series from 5k upwards. Not exactly a car that someone whos 22 or whatever has to nick or dip into parents pockets to own.
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Plus one, that was my point too.
very easy to get hold of once you take finance into the equation to.
and as I said earlier, a 1.1 saxo at 90 would look the same or worse than a 5 series at 140 in the same incident...
expensive car / powerful car / black car / silver car / FWD / RWD - It doesn't matter; dangerous driving can kill regardless
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some lad pulled up a type R, and had a sticker on the back. If it ain't jap it's crap. I thought what a bender
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4th December 2012, 12:57
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Driving at those speeds in poor weather/road conditions is massively increasing the risk of having a crash and that's what happened unfortunately.
You have to use common sense when looking at something like this, you can't compare driving at 80mph on the motorway to driving at 140mph, regardless of the conditions.
If you are not aware that driving at those speeds in those conditions could end up in a fatal collision then you should not be driving.
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4th December 2012, 13:02
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just think about the volume of water the tires have to shift at 140mph... 
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4th December 2012, 13:08
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Another incentive for the gubberment to introduce more restrictions on the motorist
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4th December 2012, 13:10
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Originally Posted by Ryan
I'm not even going to try explaining how utterly stupid you are.
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I was about to try but I don't even know where to start there's that much to say.
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4th December 2012, 13:25
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Originally Posted by Ross
just think about the volume of water the tires have to shift at 140mph... |
As I'm a geek I went looking... and found this:
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In general, cars aquaplane at speeds above 53 mph (72 km/h), where water ponds to a depth of at least 1/10 of an inch (2.5 mm) over a distance of 30 feet (9 meters) or more.
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Measure 2.5mm with your fingers. That's really not a lot of water. Not even a puddle as such. and at 100mph, you cover that 30ft in 1/5th of a second.
Not a lot of time to react...
Idiots, basically. Mathematical idiots.
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4th December 2012, 13:35
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racing
crashed
dead
doesn't really hold up in court does it.
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4th December 2012, 13:36
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Originally Posted by Ross
Idiots, basically. Mathematical idiots.
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+1
oh aye
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4th December 2012, 13:43
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Originally Posted by RickP
At the end of the day I'm sure most of us on here are guilty of driving considerably faster than we should have at some point and maybe even had races in not ideal conditions in our younger days. I'm not condoning driving like a dickhead in bad conditions, but do you not think its just a bit harsh to say they deserved what they got, when lives have been lost!
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HarsH? Sure you wouldn't be saying that if they crashed into a member of your family racing at them speeds
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4th December 2012, 13:54
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Originally Posted by KamRacing
What we should have is a two tier driving test much like they have for bikes.
Would make a bit of extra cash for the government as well....
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 Why? So you want first part of your car test to be in a car park for 20 mins?
I do not see how it would help at all tbh, its not going to stop people driving like dicks..
& If dicks can pass the test now, there going to be able to pass a easier mod 1 such type test.
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Last edited by motocrossjord; 4th December 2012 at 14:02.
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4th December 2012, 13:59
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#79
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Originally Posted by motocrossjord
Why? So you want first part of your car test to be in a car park for 20 mins?
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Tbf, I know a lot of people with a license who struggle to drive around a car park.
If they can't pass that, they don't get to attempt the big boys test. Not even allowed to attempt it until your testes have dropped either.
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4th December 2012, 14:00
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Originally Posted by motocrossjord
Why? So you want first part of your car test to be in a car park for 20 mins?
I do not see how it would help at all tbh |
he's not talking about CBT, he means license restrictions on power etc until more experienced. Which I'm inclined to agree with.
How I didn't kill myself or others in my teens/early 20's I'll never know.
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