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29th March 2014, 10:22
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#2061
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What I have listed above is just the front kit. Ontop of the there is the BE mounting kit, along with the rear suspension kit (listed below)
Again quote taken from Dave/Colin
" The kit comes with:
Two rockers,
New bearings + nuts,
Rocker conversion brackets/spigots,
Tie rod/rear subframe brace with shock clevis and boot floor washer,
Solid axle mounts (these MUST be fitted),
LH/RH push rods,
All rose joints,
Shock and rose joint top hats/spacers
Tapered spacer for lower push rod connection,
Two rear suspension kit rocker braces.
All bolts, spacers, fixtures and fittings."
Link for the full thread about the rear set up
http://www.106rallyeforum.com/forum2...ad.php?t=90227
Last edited by jpsaxo; 29th March 2014 at 11:04.
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29th March 2014, 10:41
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#2062
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Originally Posted by AlexFocusST
8+ seconds off lap times does sound like too good to be true ,
but when you go through all the details of this kit and what geometry settings actually do to a car and also take into account that big names like Sandy and Colin back these figures up as they where the ones testing it ... well lets just say I personally am saving up
Would have liked to have this kit now before i finish my car , but preferred to run it as is for now and upgrade to it later on !
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I wouldn't focus on the specific gain. The fact it's a gain is the most important thing  yes get saving and get in the long que ASAP
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29th March 2014, 11:28
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#2063
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Location: South Wales
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Car(s): ZX 16v, 205 GTI, 309 Goodwood, 405 MI16.
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For the Doubters:
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Originally Posted by Cyb3r
I set out first while Dave and Colin watched on. I started by putting in a 50 sec lap on a wet track, thats already 6 secs off my fastest previous time in the wet. So we adjusted the rear dampers as the rear was bouncy under braking down the straights and unstable in the corner. Then Colin had ago and straight away put in a low 48. I wasnt having that so...
As i got the feel for it the time started to fall off, first half a second then seconds, as the day went on the track started to dry out, With the rear sorted out it was time to put in some times,
By 3pm we had decided we could even rinse another 100th of a second out of it so we loaded up and went home.
The Fastest time was 47.27 and there was only 0.01 of a second between us.
All in All a very successful day testing and the Satchel chassis has knocked over 8 seconds off my time around Llandow, Anyone that buys this kit will not be disappointed, the grip levels are just unreal!
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Originally Posted by TIGgerDave
Just to add, everything on the car is the same, same engine, same tyres and weather, although this time it has a higher ratio diff. I never drove the car, but it was a complaint of both Dean's and Colin's that the gearing was too high; good news getting those times even with the ratios being incorrect.
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29th March 2014, 12:57
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#2064
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How much?
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29th March 2014, 17:13
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#2065
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circa £2k up front and £800 on the rear and £400 for the BE conversion mountings, but best to PM them on Facebook to be sure.
You'll need to buy the dampers too.
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30th March 2014, 12:15
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#2066
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30th March 2014, 13:01
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#2067
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Quote:
Originally Posted by welshpug
circa £2k up front and £800 on the rear and £400 for the BE conversion mountings, but best to PM them on Facebook to be sure.
You'll need to buy the dampers too.
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Yep thats about right, plus;
Fitting costs
Dampers
Driveshafts
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Rear dampers approx £600-£750 depending on choice
Rear springs £50
Front dampers £400 for bilstein.
Front Springs £50
4 x helper springs approx £70
Last edited by jpsaxo; 30th March 2014 at 13:06.
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30th March 2014, 16:28
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#2068
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Are you having custom shafts made by colin too josh to go with the BE mounts? If so how much?
I so need to save up for this setup.
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30th March 2014, 17:26
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#2069
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Waste of money when b8's and a lower brace turn you in to senna anyway 
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31st March 2014, 06:04
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#2070
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Originally Posted by tweeqd
Waste of money when b8's and a lower brace turn you in to senna anyway |
Lo0o0o0o0o0ol!
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Originally Posted by jsdvtr
Are you having custom shafts made by colin too josh to go with the BE mounts? If so how much?
I so need to save up for this setup.
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Yes.you.do! Shafts have already been done yeah
I think they only do the shafts as part of the kit, if you want them separate you'll have to speak to Colin, I cant remember the exact cost of each component mate
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31st March 2014, 07:21
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#2071
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thicker hubs... i saw it mentioned 307 hubs, do these fit the MA shafts? only im restricted to an MA box and thicker more durable shafts and hubs will be one of the next things on the todo list after brakes... getting ready for the next step  watch this space (it will be at the end of the year, fingers crossed itll have the same make me wet appeal as the suspension )
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31st March 2014, 07:35
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#2072
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I have colin kit and still have an MA box Colin is making my shaft also.
Last edited by AndySAXO; 31st March 2014 at 07:37.
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31st March 2014, 08:20
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#2073
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Did the last one get stuck in tweeqds rectum?
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31st March 2014, 08:36
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#2074
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AndySAXO
I have colin kit and still have an MA box Colin is making my shaft also. |
this is a posibility that i shall be looking further into
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31st March 2014, 09:18
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#2075
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You can get BE inner & MA outer shafts mate
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31st March 2014, 09:58
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#2076
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jpsaxo
You can get BE inner & MA outer shafts mate
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basically i need MA both ends and BE shafts...
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31st March 2014, 11:08
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#2077
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Yep, Colin can supply (as Andysaxo said above)
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31st March 2014, 11:10
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#2078
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Quote:
Originally Posted by greyjasper51
basically i need MA both ends and BE shafts...
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it can be done pretty easy i think ... just a matter of shortening the shafts and fitting to the 106/saxo hubs
i have a pair of 307 original shafts that where on a 1.6 16v petrol with MA gearbox want a photo and measurements for comparison???
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31st March 2014, 14:22
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#2079
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AlexFocusST
it can be done pretty easy i think ... just a matter of shortening the shafts and fitting to the 106/saxo hubs
i have a pair of 307 original shafts that where on a 1.6 16v petrol with MA gearbox want a photo and measurements for comparison???
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yes please
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1st April 2014, 09:32
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#2080
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