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11th January 2011, 17:09
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Strenghening plate
just having a nose on ebay and came across these
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...=STRK:MEWAX:IT
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...=STRK:MEWAX:IT
just looking at them they're very similler and are both different sizes so i was just wondering what would be the idea size to go with when adding strenghening plates
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11th January 2011, 17:22
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The bottom ones i think are 106 ones as they have the bonnet lifters on the strut tops.
Im looking at order some of these myself very soon considering im running 300lb springs as would like some strenghtening up front. Just weld in place.
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11th January 2011, 17:31
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The bottom ones i think are 106 ones as they have the bonnet lifters on the strut tops.
Im looking at order some of these myself very soon considering im running 300lb springs as would like some strenghtening up front. Just weld in place.
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thats a similler reason to why i want to run them thing is what size thickness would you go for
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11th January 2011, 17:54
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strut top plates are a good mod even for a fast road car. i bent both my tops on soft gmax springs a while back.
ive seen a lot of standard cars with bent/domed top mounts.
i run 250lbs fronts now so i fit the 5mm plates in. can also still keep my strutbrace.
the best picture i have at this moment
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11th January 2011, 18:00
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so its not a case of bigger is better as i was thinking £13 extra for the 2mm seems alot and ive got an upper strut brace to go over the top like the above photo, so will the 4mm plates be alright for the job,
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11th January 2011, 18:04
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go for the 4mm.
id guess theyre only 2mm thick as standard so thyre going to bend easy. extra 4mm will be plenty.
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11th January 2011, 18:06
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go for the 4mm.
id guess theyre only 2mm thick as standard so thyre going to bend easy. extra 4mm will be plenty.
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really that thin cheers tho mate saved me £13 lol
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11th January 2011, 18:08
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id only go thicker if you doing gavel rallying or some other serious bumpy terrain type stuff.
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11th January 2011, 18:14
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The 6mm ones are stated for Forest rallying which is likely to be bumpy as fook.
4mm will be more than adequate for any road use
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11th January 2011, 22:25
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Check APS cars for some aswell, their site hasnt worked for months now so youll have to phone them. Only like £18 though for the pair
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11th January 2011, 22:40
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welding 6mm plates to 2mm strut tops, will take a decent welder to get a good weld on that, what would you reccomed for doing it?
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11th January 2011, 22:42
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Also if you are using these top strut strengthening plates with high lb springs, then its going to send the pressure to the next weekness spot. Down the side of the turret weld a bar or something.
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11th January 2011, 22:52
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personali if i was running over 200/220lb springs i would defo be seam welding the entire car, ect.
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12th January 2011, 00:22
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personali if i was running over 200/220lb springs i would defo be seam welding the entire car, ect.
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thats on my list of things to do whilst the engines out and am getting the cage fitted
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12th January 2011, 11:59
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How much work/cost is it to get the car seam welded? Or just the bay?
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12th January 2011, 12:52
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this might help...
Saxo price guide
- Non sun roof skin supplied and fitted with roof bow, painted in non matching paint (i.e silver car with black roof ect) £370, painted in card colour code £400.
- Seam weld interior £150, this included welds been treated with zinc paint to stop rusting.
- Engine bay seam welding £90 extra £10 for strengthening plated to be welded on, this included welds been treated with zinc paint to stop rusting.
- Engine bay sprayed with non colour coded paint, £140, or with colour coded paint £170.
- Interior respray (dose not included cage) £220 non colour coded paint, £290 with colour coded paint.
- Interior respray with roll cage £290 non colour coded paint, £350 with colour coded paint.
- Welding roll cages in also available contact for details as prices vary depending on the roll cage.
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12th January 2011, 13:01
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Is it possible to do it yourself the seam welding as a know someone with a welder who uses it to do with his job and was going to weld extra bars onto my cage or could ask a mate who does stuff on side who works in a bodyshop.
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12th January 2011, 13:08
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anyone with a good mig welder and good at welding will be able to do it, i wud recommend at least a 150amp turbo welder for the job. also i wud defo use a gas mig welder and ideali use argashield over co2.
there just rough prices i charge, we tend to get track cars like people are building on here,... but there rich kids and aint intrested in the build just the driving so daddy pays for work to be done then kids go thrash tits off em...
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12th January 2011, 14:20
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Mark those prices for seal welding are very good. Do you do work on the side as well as at work, and do you have the capacity to do mobile work?
How long does the seam welding take for a car of 106/saxo/Ax size, and im assuming you'd expect all of the original underseal covering panel joins to have been removed beforehand - Any recommendation for the best method to remove it?
Im contemplating whether to get my Ax done whilst its bare shelled
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12th January 2011, 14:36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by willsy
Mark those prices for seal welding are very good. Do you do work on the side as well as at work, and do you have the capacity to do mobile work?
How long does the seam welding take for a car of 106/saxo/Ax size, and im assuming you'd expect all of the original underseal covering panel joins to have been removed beforehand - Any recommendation for the best method to remove it?
Im contemplating whether to get my Ax done whilst its bare shelled
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thats the price i charge on my own at work add about 35% on top of them prices,... am in middle of stuff atm... i work there full time, but were moving house in next 2 weeks, an the new house has a monster garage, so plans are to work from home doing the basic motorsport prep work i.e stuff on that list, as i have all the tools my self, like monster 200litre compressor ect etc...
the undersealing stuff your talking about do you mean the like rubber stuff thts underneath the car? and yes them prices are for pre stripped cars wud be like 15quid an hour on top of tht price for stripping work ect...
time wise about 1 and half days to do each of the welding jobs then about 3 extra days for paint bay and 5days for interia.
i shall give u a pm anyways
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