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Old 29th June 2009, 19:51   #1
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Default Modifying Standard Air intake box...

Hi.

Been looking through many threads about filters. Came to the conclusion that i am going to get a green panel filter from kam.

When i was reading up through old threads i saw that people were saying to modify the standard air intake box by driling holes, getting rid of parts etc.

Im wondering do panel filters give any increase in noise? Also does drilling holes etc help?

And is it good to use the standard intake box or create a new cold air feed?

Basicly just looking for some ideas / suggestions on way to improve the standard air intake and also some more info if anyone has any about panel filters?

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Old 29th June 2009, 20:23   #2
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i have a panel filter on my vts..... dont drill holes in it.... you wont get any noise from a panel filter, that whats exhuast are for imo.... panel filter in standard airbox is worth it no hot air drawn in and a decent price
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Old 29th June 2009, 20:37   #3
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Ahh i see

Is the standard cold air feed ok? Or is it worth cleaning it?
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Old 29th June 2009, 20:46   #4
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Just noticed, what panel filter would i need?

On this page:

http://www.kamracing.co.uk/citroen-s...el-filters-28/

Do i get the flat filter or round filter?

I have a mk2 51 plate furio...
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Old 29th June 2009, 23:47   #5
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Im lookin to do exactly same thing mate... i was going to get viper induction cause i nievely thought it was the best but most ppl jus sayin it not worth it get a panel filter and remove the restrictor thing on the box and plastic weld over the gap.. a guide on this would be useful .... i was thinkin of getin one of those aluminium air feeds but i also heard there no better than the standard piping cause the abs plastic shields heat better... there are tons of opinions on this matter n i think a guide ( sticky ) would help a Sh*t load of ppl.....
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i'm looking as well for a panel filter for my mk2 vtr 2001 is the last engine phase etc but confused which panel filter to buy either round or flat because the standard one is round and flat wouldn't fit yet '01- is the flat....
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hey guys just read through this and have posted some help on a similar thread about having a pannel filter...

"iv gone down the route of a pannel filter and it has worked well i cant say iv got massive gains but the air flow is so much better! i have used K&N and put a piper x air hose directly onto the air box that has been sealed up
here is a pic of my pannel filter



and a pic of the piper x hose going to the front of the bonnet area



hope this helps"

the K&N filter cost £38, piper x air hose £19, all in all not expensive and has done the job well. car fells alot free'er and runs alot cooler when moving.
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Thanks again fergie.

Still need to know whether to buy flat or rounded one?
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if your airbox looks like the above then get a flat one (this one)..... if not round one
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i'm looking as well for a panel filter for my mk2 vtr 2001 is the last engine phase etc but confused which panel filter to buy either round or flat because the standard one is round and flat wouldn't fit yet '01- is the flat....
http://www.kamracing.co.uk/kam-racin...-6-8v-153.html

Thats the baby !
if yours is a y reg onwards then yeah thats it.. Hope this helps bro
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jus read your post again, you say ur standard one is round ? hmm weird... should be that one if its a 2001... thats what i have been told matey
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i'm looking as well for a panel filter for my mk2 vtr 2001 is the last engine phase etc but confused which panel filter to buy either round or flat because the standard one is round and flat wouldn't fit yet '01- is the flat....
If it looks like this ..... You want the flat one.


If it looks like this.... You want the round one
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If it looks like this ..... You want the flat one.


If it looks like this.... You want the round one
Pretty simple now i see the difference.

Thanks for replies.

Flat one for me
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Got a question, do you know the actual tubing that goes to the front og the engine bay, that air intake, is there anyway you can enlarge / make it better?
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Got a question, do you know the actual tubing that goes to the front og the engine bay, that air intake, is there anyway you can enlarge / make it better?
Ide say get some ducting pipe or a actual cold air feed and replace it...

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Dont really want to replace it, just looking for ideas on making it better. I have a open indcution kit, so maybe a funel on the end?
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Im really loving that piper-x ducting pipe.
I have the round box and after the filter its more of an oval shape so what will i have to do or will it just fit to shape.
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If it looks like this ..... You want the flat one.


If it looks like this.... You want the round one
Not that it matters now but I had a 2001 1.1 desire with a round pannel filter, not flat...

Got a k&n 57i gen2 in the vtr though
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thanks for the help guys on which air filter to have...

well i bought one off here from silversaxo113 off a 52' plate.


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If it looks like this ..... You want the flat one.

it has the first air box above which is the box shaped one with ridges yet it has an oval shapped round filter inside which has confused me...but with it it runs alot better than an air filter i had on (k&n) but what's confusing is its the the '01 onwards box yet round inside.

my vtr is x reg btw..
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Doesnt seem to be an awful lot of difference diameter wise between the standard intake hosing and modified bits?

any size difference/gains?
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