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Old 12th February 2014, 09:50   #21
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Warrington mate, but seriously the guy has it at mo if he can't recover I shall try the advice above then go from there
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Source: 2nd/3rd line technical support supervisor.
Really?

and you're suggesting he just gets someone he knows to "shove" it into their PC?
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Really?

and you're suggesting he just gets someone he knows to "shove" it into their PC?
Job title means nothing in IT It may be 2nd/3rd line desktop support. Could be printer support.

My job title certainly does not describe what I do.

However, I'd do something similar in that situation. Infact, i have a HDD cradle sitting on my desk for exactly that reason.

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Old 14th February 2014, 08:34   #24
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Really?

and you're suggesting he just gets someone he knows to "shove" it into their PC?
Explain to me what implications this will cause? If your comfortable using bios, it will come up no more than a secondary / tirsiary hard drive...if they are not comfortable having it in their pc while their os is up, they can always enter command line just after POST and use diskpart that way.

Or even more secure, if the person the guy asks doesnt want to put it in their computer at all, they can set it up in a spare system, use the NIC to run ILO and access command line remotely...

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Explain to me what implications this will cause? If your comfortable using bios, it will come up no more than a secondary / tirsiary hard drive...if they are not comfortable having it in their pc while their os is up, they can always enter command line just after POST and use diskpart that way.

Or even more secure, if the person the guy asks doesnt want to put it in their computer at all, they can set it up in a spare system, use the NIC to run ILO and access command line remotely...

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It's a guy with a PC, not a server ILO isn't in PCs, he'd need IPMI or a vPro or something, but I doubt anyone he knows would have that kind of technology at their disposal.

I think MuZiZZle is just being a dick
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Explain to me what implications this will cause? If your comfortable using bios, it will come up no more than a secondary / tirsiary hard drive...if they are not comfortable having it in their pc while their os is up, they can always enter command line just after POST and use diskpart that way.

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Because the PC it goes into could do anything to it?!?!?

It could write to the disk and totally fuck up any chance you have of recovering files.

Personally I'd scan it for bad sectors first, then take a dc3dd clone of it.

What do I know though......

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I think MuZiZZle is just being a dick
not really dude, I just know what I'm doing
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The guy has pictures of his new born, I'd just do everything I could to make sure I could recover them.
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Because the PC it goes into could do anything to it?!?!?

It could write to the disk and totally fuck up any chance you have of recovering files.

Personally I'd scan it for bad sectors first, then take a dc3dd clone of it.

What do I know though......

not really dude, I just know what I'm doing
Come on, when have you EVER seen any OS (Linux/Windows/Max/UNIX) Write to a secondary/mounted drive without being told to?

Only situation even remotely similar I've seen is mounting an NTFS drive in Linux and destroying the partition table if you don't unmount it cleanly. And that's still technically not being done by accident.

The dick thing was supposed to be tongue in cheek, didn't realize you were in the trade as well

But, I'd agree, taking an image of it would be a good practice, however, you'd need functioning hardware to plug the drive into order to take that backup anyways. So Jordyn's suggestion would still be valid, even if only to boot Ghost/Shadow protect etc to take an image.
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All I know is I have been told to clone disks first, this way everything is intact should anything happen, that's what I was getting at, I wasn't willy waving.

I'm just very careful with files, remember, if a file doesn't exist in 3 places, it doesn't exist, that's my motto and I stick to it
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A man with only 2 copies of his data, does not need that data I was also taught that.
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A man with only 2 copies of his data, does not need that data I was also taught that.
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ok have old hdd and a thingy to plug it in too, only comes up with format? or view stuff but the stuff backed up on there is from 2012? anything I can do to view anything left on there? in dos or something was mentioned?
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