Mobile Devices: Lite Theme Citroën: Citroën Trader | Saxo Trader | C2 Trader Peugeot: Peugeot Trader | 106 Trader Enthusiast: Saxperience


Go Back   Saxperience - Citroen Saxo Forum > Citroen Saxo Related Forums > Track / Motorsport Prep'

Track / Motorsport Prep' This forum is for technical discussions about track / motorsport preparation. Posting rights have restricted to select usergroups. If you wish to contribute to discussions within this forum, request acceptance from the usergroup leader from your User CP.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 15th April 2015, 09:07   #1
deano_123
Established Member
Track / Motorsport PrepNorth East Region Member
 
deano_123's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Newcastle
Posts: 1,698
Car(s): Range Rover Sport
iTrader Score: 4 (100%)
deano_123 is on a distinguished road
Default Slam panel

Apart from providing the mounting points for the headlights does the slam panel provide any structural strength?
__________________
deano_123 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17th April 2015, 06:21   #2
deano_123
Established Member
Track / Motorsport PrepNorth East Region Member
 
deano_123's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Newcastle
Posts: 1,698
Car(s): Range Rover Sport
iTrader Score: 4 (100%)
deano_123 is on a distinguished road
Default

Anyone? I'm planning on replacing mine with a tubular panel and would like some input before I go to the hassle of it
__________________
deano_123 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17th April 2015, 07:02   #3
D4MJT
Saxperience Forum Bum
Track / Motorsport PrepNorth East Region Member
 
D4MJT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Morpeth
Posts: 2,539
Car(s): BMW 116d Regional Toner Sales Edition
D4MJT is on a distinguished road
Default

A tubular replacement would be likely to provide extra strength in all honesty.

It's the shittiest flimsy piece of metal going, as you'll see when you remove it.
D4MJT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17th April 2015, 08:06   #4
axsaxoman
Saxperience Forum Bum
Track / Motorsport PrepContent Contributor
 
axsaxoman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Scotland
Posts: 3,380
iTrader Score: 1 (100%)
axsaxoman is just really niceaxsaxoman is just really niceaxsaxoman is just really niceaxsaxoman is just really nice
Default

no slam panel has no strength and is often replaced with other things --as in c2 rally car --std front panel is palstic --so was repalced with alloy unit to allow better fitment of large rad etc
slam panel is not strong for another reason --so it will allow one side only to fold up in a corner accident and not spin the car as easy whilst absorbing the impact
i would leave the lower ox section though just change everything aove it --or replace that with a storng tube
__________________
when the flag drops the bulshit stops.
owner of GMC motorsport 01671404030/01671403699
axsaxoman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17th April 2015, 08:40   #5
deano_123
Established Member
Track / Motorsport PrepNorth East Region Member
 
deano_123's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Newcastle
Posts: 1,698
Car(s): Range Rover Sport
iTrader Score: 4 (100%)
deano_123 is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by axsaxoman View Post
no slam panel has no strength and is often replaced with other things --as in c2 rally car --std front panel is palstic --so was repalced with alloy unit to allow better fitment of large rad etc
slam panel is not strong for another reason --so it will allow one side only to fold up in a corner accident and not spin the car as easy whilst absorbing the impact
i would leave the lower ox section though just change everything aove it --or replace that with a storng tube
Yes, it is the upper panel I am meaning, which attaches to the wing tops and lower section.

I'm dropping a panel off in the next few days for a fab shop to make the first attempt.
__________________
deano_123 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28th April 2015, 11:48   #6
smokeandpoke
Regular Poster
Track / Motorsport PrepSouth East Region Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Surrey
Posts: 275
Car(s): '57 Vauxhall Vectra CDTI - Daily '02 Saxo VTS - Tu
smokeandpoke is on a distinguished road
Default

The slam panels are so horrifically weak it's unreal, i can't remember how i did it but i bent one all out of shape off my donor, bent it back by hand and put back on the car.... the guy that bought it then flipped the car and smashed it into a tree, so from experience i can say the rest of the car isn't that strong either, but not a lot is tougher than a tree!
smokeandpoke is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28th April 2015, 16:13   #7
D4MJT
Saxperience Forum Bum
Track / Motorsport PrepNorth East Region Member
 
D4MJT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Morpeth
Posts: 2,539
Car(s): BMW 116d Regional Toner Sales Edition
D4MJT is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by smokeandpoke View Post
The slam panels are so horrifically weak it's unreal, i can't remember how i did it but i bent one all out of shape off my donor
You probably dropped a discarded pair of latex gloves on it by accident.
D4MJT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28th April 2015, 23:00   #8
solvi
Regular Poster
Track / Motorsport Prep
 
solvi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: lisboa
Posts: 308
Car(s): saxo 1600 cup trackday. vw golf iv 150cv. benz
solvi is on a distinguished road
Default

thats a good thread ...


always wanted to cut my upper front to acomudateir in a biger and beter air intake , but warried whith structural weekness....
solvi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6th May 2015, 15:07   #9
Keicchan
Newbie
Track / Motorsport Prep
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Rome
Posts: 15
Car(s): Saxo Vts
Keicchan is on a distinguished road
Default

guess u mean like this?



it has no structural strength... u just only need to build some short brackets to fix the radiator vents structure (i use the headlights bolt)
Keicchan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 7th May 2015, 15:40   #10
axsaxoman
Saxperience Forum Bum
Track / Motorsport PrepContent Contributor
 
axsaxoman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Scotland
Posts: 3,380
iTrader Score: 1 (100%)
axsaxoman is just really niceaxsaxoman is just really niceaxsaxoman is just really niceaxsaxoman is just really nice
Default

made weak to fold in known manner in an accident --so it folds down and not up and blocking windscreen -then bonnet buckles in middle to absorb energy of bump and stay shut
__________________
when the flag drops the bulshit stops.
owner of GMC motorsport 01671404030/01671403699
axsaxoman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4th September 2015, 13:18   #11
smokeandpoke
Regular Poster
Track / Motorsport PrepSouth East Region Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Surrey
Posts: 275
Car(s): '57 Vauxhall Vectra CDTI - Daily '02 Saxo VTS - Tu
smokeandpoke is on a distinguished road
Default ^^^^ that picture

i know its weak, but it must do something for rigidity?
the picture above, did it handle ok etc?
is it just a matter of making sure everything is bolted down and you're good to go?
surely if you hit anything you'd get a face full of bonnet?
not putting anyone down, i just saw it and wondered what effect it would have!
i suppose as long as the rad has somewhere to mount to it doesnt really matter?

someone advise!
smokeandpoke is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12th September 2015, 08:17   #12
axsaxoman
Saxperience Forum Bum
Track / Motorsport PrepContent Contributor
 
axsaxoman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Scotland
Posts: 3,380
iTrader Score: 1 (100%)
axsaxoman is just really niceaxsaxoman is just really niceaxsaxoman is just really niceaxsaxoman is just really nice
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by smokeandpoke View Post
i know its weak, but it must do something for rigidity?
the picture above, did it handle ok etc?
is it just a matter of making sure everything is bolted down and you're good to go?
surely if you hit anything you'd get a face full of bonnet?
not putting anyone down, i just saw it and wondered what effect it would have!
i suppose as long as the rad has somewhere to mount to it doesnt really matter?

someone advise!
yep had it on my old ax race car --forgot to lock pins --windscreen broken and couldn,t see --not good when coming to a fast corner flat out .LOL
c2,s have plastic front panle which mounts rad and everything
rally cars make up alloy top panel to mount everything on and alows bigger rad as well
__________________
when the flag drops the bulshit stops.
owner of GMC motorsport 01671404030/01671403699
axsaxoman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14th September 2015, 12:17   #13
smokeandpoke
Regular Poster
Track / Motorsport PrepSouth East Region Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Surrey
Posts: 275
Car(s): '57 Vauxhall Vectra CDTI - Daily '02 Saxo VTS - Tu
smokeandpoke is on a distinguished road
Default

So in short, leave it well alone lol!
As someone said, it crumples up into the bonnet which makes sense.
I guess without it there, the front ends would try to touch each other in a smash!
smokeandpoke is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2nd October 2015, 05:20   #14
slammed106
Regular Poster
Track / Motorsport Prep
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 291
iTrader Score: 1 (100%)
slammed106 is on a distinguished road
Default

Make a feature out of it????

slammed106 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 22:15.