Turbo setup, Can standard ecu be mapped for turbo?? - Saxperience

jsdvtr · 13th August 2009, 22:00

Im looking at turboing my vtr but only wanting a low boost setup because of cost wise. It will be taken off road in the future and being built to be a track/weekend car. I was thinking of either doing it to a vts but heard that vtr's are good with boost and have got internals which i think seen from wide vtr turbo say that. So would that be best without changing internals?
Also ive read up on here all about turboing but need to know
1. What turbo to use?
2. Manifold as dont want a standard one modified?
3. Intercooler?
4. Should i get oil cooler also?
5. Whats a safe psi to run at and what would the std internals take and max power?

blackie_2k5 · 13th August 2009, 22:14

turbo is optional all depends as most with price, read the stickies mate t2 t25 t28 all suitable for low boost
manifolds are expensive which is why people modify standard
vtr over s i beleive is because vtr mani is easier to modify plus many see the 8v an easier lump to work on dont as why?
you wil need inercooler and a msaal oil cooler should be adequate for low boost
theres no safe psi for stock internals but 8 is said safe max but id say reliable max is 6, but as gav has proved being respectfull to a car you can run 14psi for a good while long as you know it will go bang eventually

AXracing · 13th August 2009, 22:14

How much are you looking to spend and what sort or engine management and fuelling are you planning to use?

sexoturbs · 13th August 2009, 22:18

their is pages of the basic set up on here mate just got to look. or type it in google n put saxperience after wat u want to search and it shout come up.

dp engineering look on their site man they have the mani i want to buy for mine. also ci tuning, gmc motorsports. get some ideas off them and build ur oen kit or if u have the money buy one of their kits.

you can use any petroll turbo i supose as long as you get a mani mad to fit... most ppl have t2, t3, t4, t25.. i believe some one somewer has a skyline turbo on theirs but ull just have to turn the boost down.

u can fine intercooles anywhere just got to get one that fits in you car lol as the problem i have with the one i just baught.

definatly get a oil cooler.

like everyone gets told. do everything properly the 1st tym it will be better and cheaper! forge it. uprate injectors 2-4 bar map sensor stan alone ecu... alot of money no matter wat you do so go all out

blackie_2k5 · 13th August 2009, 22:25

jus found a decent size intercooler on ebay actually brand new 2 1/4" inlets to(same as vtr) for79 with 8 postage

jsdvtr · 14th August 2009, 07:43

What intercooler would fit? Do i need to get rid of the radiator to? Well id run standalone if found a cheap enough one. Can i put any injectors on? What power would i get from 6-8 psi? Is it just pistons, rods that need changing internally as for forged internals? Also would look at camming with probs a ph3 cam.

jsdvtr · 14th August 2009, 09:29

Ive heard that the 200sx mani fits but need modifying, what actually needs doing to it?

deesvtsT · 14th August 2009, 10:22

allright bud just been reading posts a wide range of good advice from people who know take it on board and stick to it . i diddent and found myself out of pocket and without a car for a while .i put a turbo on my vts used all std internels and only used a sigcon and a mf2 5th injector running at 15 psi boost the max for the pug 306 deisel turbo i was useing (yes i did just bodge it) thought i knew it all but when took it to a rolling road and got a couple of mates there bigin the car up put in on the rollers when it got to 197bhp BANG oil smoke and outher parts flew out of the engin bay (including all the money i had) and thay still charged me for the use (all im saying mate is beleve what thay saying and dont take any short cuts or youl end up like my car)

sexoturbs · 14th August 2009, 10:57

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Originally Posted by jsdvtr

What intercooler would fit? Do i need to get rid of the radiator to? Well id run standalone if found a cheap enough one. Can i put any injectors on? What power would i get from 6-8 psi? Is it just pistons, rods that need changing internally as for forged internals? Also would look at camming with probs a ph3 cam.

i think you would be ok using a renault5 intercooler. it may fit easier in the engine bay and should be ok for low boost.. but i baught a fat chrome front mount looks wicked ah will get the air extra cool. its just fittin thats a problem.

no you wil still need your rad, i was going to try get an uprated one that loks better or get a smaller one to save room. havent found one yet tho.

their is some one on here that has done his own ecu for a few people nad has had alot of good feedback. i believe he is doing one for the 8v one plug now so ill be looking to invest in that.

injectors.. if your running low boost your standar injectors should do. i have a fith injector on mine with the mf2.. im not to sure about injectors. it tepends if your getin direct replacement or gonna change the whole thing but they do uprated injectors on gmc motorsports.

yea forge pistons steel conrods should do it but their realy expensive plus fitting. cams will help increase the air flow. and im sure poeple would usuali run 160/180 bhp but can get up to 220 all depend how good the work is done and the remap. but if you go stanalone u can have alot more..

sorry if any spelling is wrong my wireless keyboard is playing up but hope u understand.

jsdvtr · 14th August 2009, 11:02

what are the internals that need changing then? Rods, pistons? Is it worth getting it done to vts over vtr but vtr internals go well with boosted and mines done 48k atm and runs fine.

sexoturbs · 14th August 2009, 11:14

yea the rods and pistons. im not sure wich engine will handle boost better but i believe the vtr works better with a turbo with the way it spools up n that. but no matter if you have vts or vtr if u wanna run sill bhp they will both need it done. if you do get it done then instead of runnig 180bhp and worrying is it ok, you can run 300 with a smile on your face ha if u wanna go that far.

evans1089 · 14th August 2009, 11:46

Look in the Articles or FAQ pages. There are guides on turbo set ups.

VTSTomE · 14th August 2009, 11:51

GMC do an intercooler/rad combi for the saxo i believe.

jsdvtr · 14th August 2009, 16:06

Well i was looking at getting the turbo mani thats for sale for vtr on here. But if changed pistons, rod id do vts because would get alot more power. What power range would be difference between the vtr and s? I just n eed to know what turbo should i go for, etc? Is there anyones threads would be worth reading up about whos got a good setup.

jsdvtr · 14th August 2009, 19:58

What you guys think to this? Seems a good buy tbh.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SAXO-TURBO-INT...d=p3286.c0.m14

sexoturbs · 15th August 2009, 00:37

thats what i sed i baught already. i have it fitted to my car now. its good. but i just payed bit to much for the piping. if you buy that and get the piping sumwhere else ull be ok. but it looks ace on my car. its exactly like the one shown in the pictures ubove