Turbo, Carbs, Throttle Bodies, Boost??? - Page 11 - Saxperience

blackie_2k5 · 13th September 2011, 23:44

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Originally Posted by -shuggles-

fuck off

Just buy a s13

ive got the turbo off one

does that count?

-shuggles- · 13th September 2011, 23:51

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Originally Posted by blackie_2k5

ive got the turbo off one

does that count?

but you don't get the jap fanboy scene points with it

Ryan^p · 13th September 2011, 23:51

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Originally Posted by -shuggles-

but you don't get the jap fanboy scene points with it

Exactly, therefore hes less of a cunt

blackie_2k5 · 13th September 2011, 23:52

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Originally Posted by -shuggles-

but you don't get the jap fanboy scene points with it

thats cool...they can get fucked tbh

long as im happy

-shuggles- · 13th September 2011, 23:54

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Originally Posted by Ryan

Exactly, therefore hes less of a cunt

still a cunt tho

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Originally Posted by blackie_2k5

thats cool...they can get fucked tbh

long as im happy

ahmen brother

Ryan^p · 13th September 2011, 23:55

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Originally Posted by scot-ish

anyways, chris came out with a graph of 260- or something around that. went up to another RR in glasgow and made 318 i believe within 3 days, no changes made.

Just something that jumped out at me here.... The accuracy of rolling roads isnt anything to do with johns attitude.

A car making less power on one set of rollers over another set is very common, hence why you get people commenting on some rollers being hard and others being very very overquoting.

blackie_2k5 · 13th September 2011, 23:57

im not a cunt you cunt, well maybe a little bit of a cunt, takes a cunt to spot a cunt, so you must also be a cunt? i must be your kind of cunt

cunt cunt cunt cunt cunt

Ryan^p · 13th September 2011, 23:58

well at least this thread made it 10 or so pages....

-shuggles- · 13th September 2011, 23:59

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Originally Posted by blackie_2k5

im not a cunt you cunt, well maybe a little bit of a cunt, takes a cunt to spot a cunt, so you must also be a cunt? i must be your kind of cunt

cunt cunt cunt cunt cunt

I don't know weather to be turned on because you sound like a 10 year old or reply with calling you a cunt again

cunt

maddison_vts · 13th September 2011, 23:59

2 quotes for you all lol...

'haters are gonna hate',

'buy jap and you'll get there and back...'

Ryan^p · 14th September 2011, 00:00

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Originally Posted by maddison_vts

2 quotes for you all lol...

'haters are gonna hate',

'buy jap and you'll get there and back...'

heres another

Id rather sell my soul than own a honda

maddison_vts · 14th September 2011, 00:01

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Originally Posted by Ryan

heres another

Id rather sell my soul than own a honda

now come on, they have made 2 decent cars. s2000, nsx.
granted the rest suck

adzvtr · 14th September 2011, 00:02

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Originally Posted by maddison_vts

2 quotes for you all lol...

'haters are gonna hate',

'buy jap and you'll get there and back...'

not always true, the french crap made it there and back and track at trax bud sadly the jap car didnt. one blown honda lol

Ryan^p · 14th September 2011, 00:03

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Originally Posted by maddison_vts

now come on, they have made 2 decent cars. s2000, nsx.
granted the rest suck

Honestly I used to think they were quite cool, after being in one - no thanks, and its not just because of that utterly horrendus 1980s style elec dash.

maddison_vts · 14th September 2011, 00:04

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Originally Posted by adzvtr

not always true, the french crap made it there and back and track at trax bud sadly the jap car didnt. one blown honda lol

lol, forgot about that! You can't blame the car for that though

blackie_2k5 · 14th September 2011, 00:12

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Originally Posted by maddison_vts

2 quotes for you all lol...

'haters are gonna hate',

'buy jap if youve been on the crack...'

back on topic now as ryan pointed out

scot-ish · 14th September 2011, 06:56

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Originally Posted by Ryan

Just something that jumped out at me here.... The accuracy of rolling roads isnt anything to do with johns attitude.

A car making less power on one set of rollers over another set is very common, hence why you get people commenting on some rollers being hard and others being very very overquoting.

it is his attitude though, when he tells you before it goes on the rollers that "a car like that, will never make that power" and then proceeds to take his foot of the pedal when the turbo is not even in its peak range.

KamRacing · 14th September 2011, 09:34

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Originally Posted by mark1311

TSI powered saxo... that would be epic.

fast but so boring. I drove a 300bhp TT and it was fast but a dull power delivery

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Originally Posted by Mieran

And throttle bodies

too far lol. A decent flowing inlet manifold and larger throttle body would do the trick

KamRacing · 14th September 2011, 09:48

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Originally Posted by Ryan

Just something that jumped out at me here.... The accuracy of rolling roads isnt anything to do with johns attitude.

A car making less power on one set of rollers over another set is very common, hence why you get people commenting on some rollers being hard and others being very very overquoting.

true

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Originally Posted by Ryan

Honestly I used to think they were quite cool, after being in one - no thanks, and its not just because of that utterly horrendus 1980s style elec dash.

you can bolt a supercharger or turbo kit on and instant 350-400bhp

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Originally Posted by scot-ish

it is his attitude though, when he tells you before it goes on the rollers that "a car like that, will never make that power" and then proceeds to take his foot of the pedal when the turbo is not even in its peak range.

we are but men. I worry there is an expectation that tuners have to be whiter than white. He has an opinion and expresses it. Is it always right - no...same goes for me. As for taking his foot off, well thats not really a topic for this thread. Deal with it at the time rather than feeling bitter for the rest of your life. John thinks superchargers are the best all rounder. I think people will have to learn to just agree to disagree rather than bicker like children

Superchargers have their place. Certainly I think they make very good road conversions and I love the GMC kits. They do very well on track too. I'd love to sell a kit like it. Bolt on and its neat and tidy.
Home brew is going to be better value for money IF you have the ability to do it. Also theres a lot of trial and error involved. I certainly would not have the time. You may save money but there are flaws.
Turbos have their place as well. Ultimately more efficient due to using waste gases so in theory can produce more power. We forget that to compare the two you need to standardise parts. Rather than this bickering I would prefer a discussion on the differences between the same size turbine and compressor on the two applications. There are a billion turbos and superchargers on the market so virtually every home build is going to be different but if we can use some similarities you might see some different power deliveries showing.
The Atspeed one has been mentioned but thats a £9k build at least. personally I think its corner exit power delivery is terrible but its mental on the straights. Thats not a car for me. Does a supercharger give a more linear power delivery to suit the way i drive?
Whats the effect of off boost driving, cam choice etc have on the builds. Superchargers can get away will longer duration cams as they are driven off the crank etc etc

It was a good discussion so lets get back on track

Damask · 14th September 2011, 10:05

so heres one, what sort of gains does Nos give? im guessing its not like nfs or fast and furious make out

and of course its only temporary