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11th February 2007, 16:03
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vtr turbo kits
Are there any companies that sell complete turbo kits, as in everything you need, to turbo a vtr engine? cost?
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11th February 2007, 16:09
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11th February 2007, 16:16
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There are a few companies now selling complete kits either fitted or diy most are around the £4000-£5000 mark and will produce around 180-200+bhp depending on budget and the engine in question.
I know Cituning do a kit for both 8v and 16v, carworx and jam sport offer kits aswell as Superchargers.
Be carefull tho as you gota make sure not only the brakes are upto the extra power but the chassis and driveshafts and transmisson is upto scratch. Reckon you need a budget of around £6000-£7000 for all the extra little bits remaps and for the bits that you fort was ok but will need replacing.
Don forget about the extra running cost (fuel, tyres and services) but also increased insurance.
Once youve taken all that into account, ask yourself would you rather have a Subrau? even for the budget kits around £4000, you could see yourself driving a turbo motor anyway.
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11th February 2007, 16:17
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didnt think they were that much!!
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11th February 2007, 16:41
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Turbo + supercharging is a expensive job, dont just take into consideration the cost of having a turbo installed as down the line there will be things going wrong with it and you will be uprating stuff and so forth.. Its not a cheap option tbh.
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11th February 2007, 16:45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jamiep
didnt think they were that much!!
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how much was you expecting to pay
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11th February 2007, 16:46
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Originally Posted by VTS_16v_Boy
Once youve taken all that into account, ask yourself would you rather have a Subrau?
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Subaru! no thanks i'd rather have a Turbo'd Saxo mate much more fun and cheaper to run, in terms of parts etc!!
but tbh your looking at about £3000-£5000 for a full turbo setup and that doesn't include breaks, suspension, etc
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11th February 2007, 17:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by S34MER
Subaru! no thanks i'd rather have a Turbo'd Saxo mate much more fun and cheaper to run, in terms of parts etc!!
but tbh your looking at about £3000-£5000 for a full turbo setup and that doesn't include breaks, suspension, etc
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All I was tryin to point out that after all that out lay you could have a car that rolled out the factory with a blower on it in the first place and should (wont say WONT) break down everytime its driven hard.
Not sayin Turbo'd Saxos are unreliable but if you was planning to convert to forced induction it might be worth having a car to take over the dutie of the daily drive as traffic and everyday driving would put a heavy wear on clutches and transmissions.
Well worth doing your homework before talking to the bank manager
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11th February 2007, 18:27
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Although its nice to say 'yeah i did that...' you may aswell go out... buy a turbo'd saxo for say 4-6k... (Y) Someone's bound to sell one. Then you've saved your self a great deal of cash as long as the job was a gooden.
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11th February 2007, 18:33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by S34MER
Subaru! no thanks i'd rather have a Turbo'd Saxo mate much more fun and cheaper to run, in terms of parts etc!!
but tbh your looking at about £3000-£5000 for a full turbo setup and that doesn't include breaks, suspension, etc
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a saxo rather then a subaru i think you need your head testing
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11th February 2007, 18:38
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a could sorce the parts for abou 2-2500 but then there fitting and mapping. id go supercharged if had to choose
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11th February 2007, 19:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hesslevtr
a saxo rather then a subaru i think you need your head testing
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a Turbo'd Saxo over a scooby any day for me young lady! 200bhp at the wheels of a Saxo would wipe the floor with a Scooby, plus the Scoob would cost twice as much to fix if things went wrong, running costs, etc!
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11th February 2007, 19:16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by S34MER
a Turbo'd Saxo over a scooby any day for me young lady! 200bhp at the wheels of a Saxo would wipe the floor with a Scooby, plus the Scoob would cost twice as much to fix if things went wrong, running costs, etc!
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saxo would break down more though
plus you will never beat the sound of a scooby
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11th February 2007, 19:59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hesslevtr
saxo would break down more though
plus you will never beat the sound of a scooby
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i agree with you on both those points!! but the Saxo would be much much more fun to drive!
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11th February 2007, 21:01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by S34MER
i agree with you on both those points!! but the Saxo would be much much more fun to drive!
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i dont like it when you agree with me
still rather have a scooby
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13th February 2007, 17:57
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I love my saxo now i've put in a 16v but i'd have a scooby anyday of the week! You could get one running to well over 200bhp!!
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13th February 2007, 19:13
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I've got an 8v turbo kit for sale if you're interest
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13th February 2007, 19:55
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Take a look at the supercharger kit from gmc, It's not soo far off the price of a "proper" turbo kit, plus it'll be a mile nicer to drive.
Having driven a wrx sti prodrive (305bhp), I have to report, that yes it's a hell of a piece of kit, but, uppon arriving at 3500 rpm all hell brakes loose, would be VERY easy to get yourself into a LOAD of bother quicker than you can blink, especialy if you were to put that style of power delivery into a fwd hatch, I'll explain......
I would expect a 200+ bhp turbo saxo to be similar in the way it delivers it's power, kind of normal, normal, normal.......HOLY S**T!!! and when you take into account the natural tendency of a fwd car to under steer whilst on the power, and then the lift off over steer when you back off, leaves not so many senareos:
A. the owner/driver is ever so talented. ( the person who boasts hes is normaly aint)
B. the car gets written off quite quickly and possibly kills someone (wast of all that time, money, and life)
C. the owner/driver knows he can't drive and never gets to feel the full benefit. (again, big wasted effort)
Supercharger is infinately more progressive, so even the most "special" of drivers can handle it's delivery.
Just my 2 pence worth.
Pete
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8th February 2009, 01:19
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personally i dont like subaru's or the sound of one. but it would probably be safer to have one of them than a turbo saxo lol not that im going to complain cause im in the progress of turboing mine lol havnt got that far yet goin slow on parts at the moment.
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24th June 2009, 21:58
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hello peeps jst to let sum ppl no im in the middle ov turboing my vtr
i have got:
THE TURBO N MANIFOLD TO FIT(TURBO OFF 306 D TURBO) £40
ALL THE BOOST PIPES £free
INTERCOOLER £free one off my dads rs turbo
OIL COOLER £free
DUMP VALVE £free
N i jst need to sort the oil return out n the oil feed n get an exhaust made from the turbo to the link pipe which i can get done @ work 4 free like i have had all the boost pipes @ work done n the manifold adapted to hold turbo
i jst want to no what else i need
do i need a decomp plate?
n could i just remap the ecu instead off runnin a 5th injector?
what boost do u think is a reasonable boost to run?
much appreciate it if you could help me out
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