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13th January 2008, 18:26
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Location: Coventry
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Car(s): mk2 Vtr & mk1 Tb'd Vts
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that sucks! ive got a mk2 registered as a 2000, but has the 98bhp engine as i think its one of the first released, but i pay £175 tax! how can i sort this out so im not getting ripped off?
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13th January 2008, 23:00
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#42
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Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Tonbridge United Kingdom (England)
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Car(s): Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut
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2000 uses the 90bhp engine.
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14th January 2008, 13:56
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Whitby
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Car(s): A4 B7 2.0T Quattro
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is there any real reason why the older vtr's have less power, get a worse occonomy and produce more emissions?
anything that can be done to reverse any of these downfalls?
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14th January 2008, 14:20
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#44
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Saxperience Post Whore
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: United Kingdom (England)
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The single plug ECU is easier to map!
Blacktops respond better to NA tuning, however they lack a knock sensor so forced induction isn't as good!
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14th January 2008, 14:27
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#45
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Location: Coventry
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Car(s): mk2 Vtr & mk1 Tb'd Vts
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan
2000 uses the 90bhp engine.
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i know but i dont have the 90bhp engine! i have the 3 plug ecu and the engine bay looks exactly the same as as it does in the pics for a 98bhp engine. do i have to get something changed on the sheets when i have my M.O.T or something?
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27th March 2008, 20:07
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#46
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Thanet/SE-Kent
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Car(s): DEAD mk2 vtr- 2bhp feet
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yea good sticky but i have niether of them engines lol!!
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27th March 2008, 20:23
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Saxperience Forum Bum
Join Date: Jul 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gozzy-vtr
yea good sticky but i have niether of them engines lol!!
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what you got like?
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27th March 2008, 21:02
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#48
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: anglesey
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Car(s): saxo vtr turbo
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is there any reason why a black top rocker cover wouldnt fit on a grey top?
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27th March 2008, 22:10
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Saxperience Forum Bum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by medz_vtrturbo
is there any reason why a black top rocker cover wouldnt fit on a grey top?
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they would swap about no bother mate
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27th March 2008, 23:22
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#50
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Frequent Poster
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Skeg, Nottingham (Home Town)
Posts: 545
Car(s): Saxo VTS 2002, Yamaha Thundercat
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with the two silver tops having different BHP's does this mean it is quiker or not becuase i had a lil play with a mk2 and there want no difference or was it his shitty driving?
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13th August 2008, 20:34
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#51
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Newbie
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 4
Car(s): saxo vtr
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i bet a lot of people still dont no wot one they got tho
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13th August 2008, 22:06
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#52
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Tonbridge United Kingdom (England)
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Car(s): Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jrp12345
i bet a lot of people still dont no wot one they got tho
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if they are completely retarded.
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13th August 2008, 22:22
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Saxperience Hardcore!
Join Date: Dec 2005
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ryan can you stop using the word retarded, im getting really offended you retard
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13th August 2008, 23:07
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#54
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Tonbridge United Kingdom (England)
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Car(s): Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bullit
ryan can you stop using the word retarded, im getting really offended you retard
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suck my balls. 
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14th August 2008, 22:23
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#55
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Erdington, Birmingham
Posts: 442
Car(s): Mk1 Possi Blue Vtr, slammed, White Rims, Leathers,
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the one main differenc with the black top and silver top engines is that the black top is a cheaper engine to modify due to a flat cam.
meant to be cheaper to buy cams.
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1st September 2008, 20:46
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#56
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Newbie
Join Date: Aug 2008
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I posted in the wrong thread like a newbie should, but now I have found this thread I can repeat myself. I have a blown (in the bad way) 2000 NFZ engine with the coil pack on top of the injectors, screw in oil filter and no visible lambda sensor. Are brown rocker covers really just rusty silver tops?? It is definately not the black top version, but I am having trouble in the scrappy finding a replacement engine, they all seem to look about right, but then have a plastic oil filter with a paper element, or the wrong coil pack. Will my ECU run these engines? And will they fit in my car? Or does it have to match exactly? When I ring a breakers yard they seem to think any NFZ engine will fit. I just want to drop the engine in without too much fuss.
Thanks for your help.
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1st September 2008, 21:05
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#57
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Newbie
Join Date: Aug 2008
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I was looking at this, It looks like a silver top but with the wrong coil pack, whats going on??
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16th September 2008, 10:16
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#58
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Regular Poster
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Telford
Posts: 491
Car(s): Icelandic Grey VTS
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no idea there m8 lol
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16th September 2008, 16:29
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#59
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Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Middlesbrough
Posts: 1,395
Car(s): Citroën Saxo VTR (Black / Mk2 / VTS Wheels)
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VTR's registered after September 2000 are 98BHP (90BHP before September 2000)
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19th September 2008, 21:32
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#60
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Essex
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Car(s): Mk2 Vtr
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good thread. thanks
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