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20th August 2012, 08:17
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Carbon fibre sunroof blank?
Anyone done this?
Want to bin mine as my helmet touches it when on track.
Only concern is the slight contour of the roof and carbon not flexing.
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20th August 2012, 08:25
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A carbon panel will flex enough to bend to the contours of the roof - it's not too severe there. How thick are you thinking of having the panel? I've worked with 2mm carbon frequently and that would for sure be ok, and I'd think thick enough for your needs. You could probably go thinner tbh too.
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20th August 2012, 08:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RossDagley
A carbon panel will flex enough to bend to the contours of the roof - it's not too severe there. How thick are you thinking of having the panel? I've worked with 2mm carbon frequently and that would for sure be ok, and I'd think thick enough for your needs. You could probably go thinner tbh too.
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how does it shatter though? or does it just crack?
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20th August 2012, 08:44
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how does it shatter though? or does it just crack?
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It splinters in my (limited) experience. Like fresh wood:
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20th August 2012, 08:49
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Interesting, so it's not likely to explode into bits?
it's resin over weave isn't it?
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20th August 2012, 08:52
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It would depend on how it was made - infused would be the best for this I'd guess at. You can make wet lay carbon panels but I think that'd be weaker than infused. prepreg, vacuum infused would be strongest to resist shattering I think.
A lot of this is guesswork - I've not been making carbon parts very long at all (<18 months and just for a hobby/learn).
Edit to add: All my products come from http://www.easycomposites.co.uk/
They have a range of very useful videos that are worth a watch, especially mould making and vacuum infusion.
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20th August 2012, 09:01
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I was talking about tinkering with carbon just yesterday!
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20th August 2012, 09:05
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Oh, and how tall are you alex? maybe a Benwh555 subframe will help! it did for me as I'm 6'4!
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20th August 2012, 13:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RossDagley
A carbon panel will flex enough to bend to the contours of the roof - it's not too severe there. How thick are you thinking of having the panel? I've worked with 2mm carbon frequently and that would for sure be ok, and I'd think thick enough for your needs. You could probably go thinner tbh too.
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Was thinking 2mm too, Bit easier to work with.
Just need to find a sheet big enough now, if my measurements are correct I need 52cm x 82cm.
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Oh, and how tall are you alex? maybe a Benwh555 subframe will help! it did for me as I'm 6'4!
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I'm 6ft 4", I've got a couple Ghost Dev subframes to fit but need sidemounted buckets before I can use them.
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20th August 2012, 13:57
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Was thinking 2mm too, Bit easier to work with.
Just need to find a sheet big enough now, if my measurements are correct I need 52cm x 82cm.
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I'd suggest going oversize slightly and trimming it back but remember sanding cf is a nightmare for dust - itches horribly and is basically unavoidable, even with gloves, dust mask etc. real nasty stuff to work with!
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21st August 2012, 19:35
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carbon / kevlar would flex more, kevlar would be even better.
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21st August 2012, 21:15
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Wouldn't kevlar on it's own be a bit too flexible?
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23rd August 2012, 11:55
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The resin makes it stiff but flexible..
I've seen doors hit on racecars and for them to be simply popped back into shape after the race. Obviously theres some damage but they carried on racing on the next event that day.
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23rd August 2012, 12:40
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where can you get a sheet of kevlar large enough?
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23rd August 2012, 12:42
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Quote:
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where can you get a sheet of kevlar large enough?
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contact these guys: http://www.easycomposites.co.uk/Default.aspx
I use them for my supplies.
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13th September 2012, 12:07
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Just ordered a load of sheets from them... Great price  great service highly recommend
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13th September 2012, 12:31
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Just ordered a load of sheets from them... Great price great service highly recommend |
excellent - pleased you got the same result as me. I cant rate EasyC enough
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13th September 2012, 12:53
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Bloke in Leeds company called carbon creations makes sunroof blanks for £30 pre drilled and shaped. He also makes a carbo/cevlar glass replacement panel.
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13th September 2012, 14:45
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oooooooh
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13th September 2012, 20:13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bedford126
Bloke in Leeds company called carbon creations makes sunroof blanks for £30 pre drilled and shaped. He also makes a carbo/cevlar glass replacement panel.
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details please
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