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4th June 2012, 22:54
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L-plater
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Gloucester
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1.1-vts?
I now know that i can fit a VTS in to bmy 1.1 BUT, would i havw to make, change any engine mounts?
I think im posting in the right thing...
Many thanks B300KES.
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4th June 2012, 23:23
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Saxperience Post Whore
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use the search button, no you dont need to make any mounts it goes straigh in
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4th June 2012, 23:38
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Saxperience Post Whore
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Just buy a Vts, looks better, less hastle!
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4th June 2012, 23:41
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L-plater
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Gloucester
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Where is search? Sorry im new. Still getting round it all.
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5th June 2012, 16:57
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Midlandzzz
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Car(s): The 'S
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at the top?
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5th June 2012, 17:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Quick
Just buy a Vts, looks better, less hastle!
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Why do people keep coming out with this crap. If people wanted a vts they would of brought one in the first place. You saying "just a buy vts" isn't going to make them buy one is it.
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5th June 2012, 17:30
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Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: exeter, devon
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Quote:
Originally Posted by christoph
Why do people keep coming out with this crap. If people wanted a vts they would of brought one in the first place. You saying "just a buy vts" isn't going to make them buy one is it.
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the problem is people seem to think its easier and cheaper to convert to 16v, when it really isnt. the only reason to turn a 1.1 to a vts would be to avoid the insurance costs
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5th June 2012, 17:32
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Saxperience Post Whore
Join Date: Sep 2007
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Originally Posted by BertieG
the problem is people seem to think its easier and cheaper to convert to 16v, when it really isnt. the only reason to turn a 1.1 to a vts would be to avoid the insurance costs
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Thats not really true, cost me £30 in total for a black vts then put all of the stuff i needed from it onto mine. Thats alot cheaper than buying a vts!
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5th June 2012, 17:32
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Saxperience Post Whore
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Kent
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Car(s): Gen 7 Celica 190.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BertieG
the problem is people seem to think its easier and cheaper to convert to 16v, when it really isnt. the only reason to turn a 1.1 to a vts would be to avoid the insurance costs
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Or like me your attached to the car and want to keep it...
Tom - fitted my cams  all good but one of seals are leaking  merrrrrr
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5th June 2012, 17:40
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Saxperience Post Whore
Join Date: Sep 2007
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Originally Posted by Cam
Or like me your attached to the car and want to keep it...
Tom - fitted my cams all good but one of seals are leaking merrrrrr |
Good man, you booked mapping? ah nightmare i through some new ones in when i did mine just to be safe.
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5th June 2012, 17:43
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Saxperience Post Whore
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Kent
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Car(s): Gen 7 Celica 190.
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Originally Posted by Tom5190
Good man, you booked mapping? ah nightmare i through some new ones in when i did mine just to be safe.
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Not yet but idle is ok died once but it dont hunt like mad, well i had a oil leak in march so i replaced every seal and gaskit on it. I thought they would be ok being 2 months old but merrrr lol..
Not booked mapping yet skint atm bought another saxo the other day
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6th June 2012, 13:49
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L-plater
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Gloucester
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Because it's a a sense of achievement.. it's a lot cheaper then buying a vts.
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6th June 2012, 14:13
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Saxperience Hardcore!
Join Date: Dec 2007
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Car(s): Ex saxo owner.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom5190
use the search button, no you dont need to make any mounts it goes straigh in
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From what i`ve read I thought you had to weld a mount into the engine bay,as one of them is different mate? 
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6th June 2012, 14:21
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Saxperience Post Whore
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Kent
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Originally Posted by stevo67
From what i`ve read I thought you had to weld a mount into the engine bay,as one of them is different mate? |
For the 1.1 yer i have also read this but you can do something...
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6th June 2012, 14:25
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Saxperience Forum Bum
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Morpeth
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Quote:
Originally Posted by B3OOKES
Because it's a a sense of achievement.. it's a lot cheaper then buying a vts.
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I get the sense of achievement part, but I really don't think it's cheaper.
You're looking at a minimum of £150 probably for an engine, or perhaps a few hundred quid normally for a scrapper VTS to pillage for parts. However if you were happy to buy another car and pillage it for parts then scrap it, I doubt you'd be asking about the conversion before you'd got into it.
But the other things you should consider if you don't buy a shell are things like brakes and suspension.
I converted a 943cc ph1 to a VTR lump in the past, and bills start to mount up when you need bigger brakes etc. Sure you can pick these up 2nd hand cheap enough, but waiting for a bargain is a pain when your car is in bits on the drive.
The other way to look at it, is whats the condition of your current car? If it's in tidy enough order for you to consider swapping in a new engine, then it should be worth a minimum of £500 with a bit of MOT as a cheap runabout for somebody.
Then add a few hundred quid and buy a VTS? My 03 plate was £900 with under 100k on it and a years ticket. They're cheap enough.
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6th June 2012, 19:58
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Saxperience Post Whore
Join Date: Sep 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stevo67
From what i`ve read I thought you had to weld a mount into the engine bay,as one of them is different mate? |
No thats all bollocks, yes its advisable to weld the vtr/s chassis mount in ( and i plan to do it soonish) but its not a must im still using 1.1 mount and its been in a year and done around 30,000miles
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