Advice on turbo setups :) - Page 7 - Saxperience

VinceVTS · 20th June 2011, 18:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chr15

just gonna throw this into the equation and ask if you'd use the turbo cams or not?

whats difference would there be in using standard, turbo or ph3/ph4/708/etc?

as in http://www.kamracing.co.uk/citroen/c...s-1321735.html

yeah i would also like to know more about this lol

adzvtr · 21st June 2011, 01:01

the turbo cams are designed for turbo applications, they tend to have a less aggressive exhaust cam to reduce any over lapping issues that can occure when running say, 708s,ph3s, 285s, with boost as these tend to be to aggressive and overlapping issues can happen.

Ross^p · 24th June 2011, 21:00

Just found this:

A direct to head inline turbo oil filter/adapter - as advertised elsewhere for £25

Available in -3 (suits dp oil feeds) or -4 pipe sizes. Anodised aluminum, available in black, blue or red.

£14

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/4-4AN-Blue-Ano...#ht_1559wt_689

atspeedracing · 24th June 2011, 21:15

wow thats a good find ross,

but on closer inspection thats -4 or -3 both ends so would require additional piping and fittings to fit it.. which would add to cost.. so it isnt the specially made item for direct fitment to the 106 heads advertised for £25 elsewhere that you mentioned.. as these are not an- 3 or -4 on the heads.. so wouldnt fit unfortunately

not without using various adapters (again adding to cost) but making the fitting far too long and possible prone to snap... so a custom fitting was required and designed.. i waited 6 months for them to arrive!

elsewhere: http://atspeedracing.co.uk/products/...roducts_id=299

- colin.

Ross^p · 24th June 2011, 21:24

Thanks for your input Colin. As you know, torques will do either fitting size, on either end. For no additional charge. Gotta love torques eh?

atspeedracing · 24th June 2011, 21:27

well was discussing cost for the fittings the other day before listing them online, and me and alex (torques) decided on the price so not to undercut each other.

weve used torques for a long time. quality is on par with goodridge etc and cheaper too.

- colin

Ross^p · 25th June 2011, 16:59

Yep love torques myself

Correct item for the direct to head figment (obviously only useful on a j4 engine as a jp4 you'll be getting oil from elsewhere or retapping the ball bearing to whatever size you want):
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/170658129608?r...#ht_1760wt_424

If you guys have got an agreement on price, looks like their not sticking to it

atspeedracing · 25th June 2011, 17:05

yes already sorting that

jsdvtr · 30th June 2011, 17:39

What oil filter can you run using the dp manifold and downpipe? Would a standard one fit?

stevo1600 · 30th June 2011, 19:20

i would say you can run standard oil filter. but its close and will probably melt. also running a turbo set up its wise to invest in an oilcooler+ oil filter relocation kit, even on my low blow saxo, temps are nice and low with an oil cooler.

Ross^p · 30th June 2011, 19:23

No you cannot run a standard filter. You should use a filter relocation and oil cooler. If you don't, you need a Renault 5 filter - I can't remember the part number but it's on my blog I think.

atspeedracing · 30th June 2011, 21:45

bosch P3336 is the slim filter we use.

you can use the P3336 with the stock "water cooled" cooler.. just! but can only be removed if downpipe is removed lol.

an oil cooler is highly recommended, so an air/oil cooler is recommended, with remote filter housing.. which can go anywhere and allows a larger filter to be used.

- colin

jsdvtr · 30th June 2011, 22:43

I have got a oil cooler already. Where am i able to get filter relocation from? Where would it best to mount?

atspeedracing · 1st July 2011, 16:26

ebay, speedflow, places like that.

some people mount them in the bay, personally i mount it on the lower cross member, high enough so it doesnt get smashed off over bumps obviously. and keeps oil hoses neat and tucked out the way of things.

- colin.

stevo1600 · 1st July 2011, 19:02

mines mounted the back of my intercooler. you can mount above the intercooler.

ive always seen them somewhere in the front bumper as theirs a bit of space.

jsdvtr · 2nd July 2011, 16:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by atspeedracing

ebay, speedflow, places like that.

some people mount them in the bay, personally i mount it on the lower cross member, high enough so it doesnt get smashed off over bumps obviously. and keeps oil hoses neat and tucked out the way of things.

- colin.

Yes i had seen a someone on 106oc with that but had the oil cooler in front pas side behind bumper and filter sat behind radiator but the hoses were coming from where the standard filter goes to filter relocation then to the oil cooler and looked a neat and tidy setup.

Jungle · 2nd July 2011, 21:34

Why does oil filter need moving? I just put a smaller Subaru Impreza WRX filter on mine and it works a treat

jsdvtr · 3rd July 2011, 09:36

Well if im able to just a smaller filter on then that would be fine and save me some cash to spend elsewhere on the build.

Jungle · 3rd July 2011, 11:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsdvtr

Well if im able to just a smaller filter on then that would be fine and save me some cash to spend elsewhere on the build.

I dont know if theres a reason everyone else has moved theres but I havent. Just used the smaller blue filters fro scoobs, there tiny

blackie_2k5 · 3rd July 2011, 16:46

the renault 5 ones are also used alot, thats what im running

the only main advantages of moving the filter is getting it further away from the really hot mani/downpipe/turbo, and running a bigger filter...which lets face it is never a bad thing