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2nd April 2013, 10:39
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Originally Posted by jay9119
you chat alot of shit! not rilly alot of work
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Oh rilly?
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2nd April 2013, 10:47
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#82
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Originally Posted by jay9119
you all piss off this i will be building my car and i dont give 2 fuck's who wants to slate me at the end of the day i will have the better car  |
I await to see your fabrication skills till we see who has the better car
And also i will put money on the fact youll get into this and realise its not simple at all
If you want to see a "proper" space frame build get on google put in engineered to slide and see the time and effort going into his truck
Iirc its around 4 years since he started that build
Youd be better off buying a full z cars rear end
And then bodging the front to accept an engine
Still awaits "how do i make gear linkages that work clutch systems that work wire 2 engines up here should i put my fuel tank how should i route exhaust" threads
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Originally Posted by Viper
i passed over 5 years ago now. 3 points no crashes. I'm too good to crash...
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oh really.....
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2nd April 2013, 13:49
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#83
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I know someone making a full spaceframe. He's spent nearly a year working on CAD models where he could test the frame was structurally strong and also light, had all the correct weight distribution, brake sizing, engine positioning. Really its not a case of simply welding a few pipes together. He's still had to change the design as he meets problems that occur as he builds the chassis up. I have a Peugeot 309 rallycross full spaceframe shell. For the amount of cage it has its actually not that stiff. To the point where I'm very tempted to rip 80% of it out and start again. This is in a car that had a good 6 figure sum thrown at it in the 90's. I've got a proper motorsport engineer though here to build it.
Last edited by KamRacing; 2nd April 2013 at 13:55.
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2nd April 2013, 14:37
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#84
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What the OP dreams of....
What will actually happen...
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2nd April 2013, 14:41
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#85
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FLOL, is that bottle the fuel tank!?
Seems legit
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lol because you are a brand fag
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2nd April 2013, 15:05
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#86
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Originally Posted by Prickle
FLOL, is that bottle the fuel tank!?
Seems legit
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Think so....
Garden chair seems legit too.
EPIC:BMW Thread if you have time...
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2nd April 2013, 15:14
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That's a good thread. Gives some idea of the level of work involved. The image above plus the one below give a basic idea of just how much fabrication is involved. Let alone all the design and testing that should be done to get it to work properly. And that cage has nothing suspension or brake wise on it at that point either:
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2nd April 2013, 17:32
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#88
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that bmw is such an epic build
would hate to think how much a project like that would cost... £100k?
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2nd April 2013, 19:52
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well all thanks for the vote of confidence. yes it will be hard work, yes i will have to do things over and over. i have already said i have some one who is experienced helping me. me working at powerflow will not teach me to build a space frame, but will help with bending pipe and welding. all the rest will come off the bloke helping me that i will be paying £150 per day and this is what he has built plus a few others 
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2nd April 2013, 19:56
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So you wont actually be building it then
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Originally Posted by Viper
i passed over 5 years ago now. 3 points no crashes. I'm too good to crash...
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oh really.....
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2nd April 2013, 20:34
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yes i will be helping bending welding ect but the main man will be doing all the fab work taking it up and il go over welding it ect. i have put 28 days to get the frame built to a standard of where i can finish it on my own
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2nd April 2013, 20:55
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This thread is awesome!!
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2nd April 2013, 20:57
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Jays on a little holiday for being abusive and then being abusive about the abuse... Please hold. Normal trolling should be resumed shortly. Well - a weeks time.
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3rd April 2013, 09:54
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#94
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Powerflow!!!!!!
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3rd April 2013, 10:17
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#95
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i thought powerflow didnt mandrel bend. With autocross I bet you can get away with a basic frame. The suspension is soft and loads are not transmitted through the chassis like a circuit car, but as this car needs to be faster than the police its going to need a dry day and slicks. Rigidity is therefore rather important. If the guy is simply building a frame without some major mathematical prepwork you may be disappointed with the end result though you may be distracted by the bike engines instead.
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3rd April 2013, 10:21
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#96
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Just lol Kev. 
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3rd April 2013, 11:01
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#97
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After reading the posts from the OP, even myself as a foreigner got vicarious shame from the way he rapes the English language.
And frankly I'm offended by the sheer ignorance of this person.
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3rd April 2013, 11:16
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#98
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removing all the crap from this thread
Ido not see why he is so wound up on using a bike engine --no torque when you could buy a right v8 lump for very little money -350+jag s/c v/8 go for around 1k--dump the eaton fit a rotrex and get 440+ and rwd --and run like std car .
surely if you gong to spend all the time to make space frame you want something that has GRUNT --not revs .
that coosie saxo kit projet is how it should be done --but not with a cossie --too expensive and old technology
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