saxo180 ***200bhp CARBON'D B16b PROJECT*** SPANNER IN THE WORKS #254 - Page 15 - Saxperience

Mieran · 2nd March 2010, 23:35

Be a man a drop a C20XE in there

They are 190kg though (inc. F20 gearbox)

Harv · 2nd March 2010, 23:55

VAG eninge all the way. Sack VTEC off its shit and doesn't work properly

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6DG-LLRcEc

Thats around 280bhp I think, can get them a lot quicker than that too!

Harv · 3rd March 2010, 00:01

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss8Mupq5vbc

Its the way to go mate! I think I got it wrong, it might be 400bhp after looking at this video

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hellovts · 3rd March 2010, 02:13

stick with vtec i love mine

considered ep3 engine in the saxo? thatd be a awesome vtec saxo

Bickerton · 3rd March 2010, 14:00

Alot of pages for a Saxo shell no?

Come on Craigy pull your finger out

craig180^p · 3rd March 2010, 14:08

Need monies for real updates

KamRacing · 3rd March 2010, 15:23

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Originally Posted by Harv

Yes but what would be the point in sticking to a 1600 when you can just go all out and do an 1800+ conversion. Do it once and do it right I say! As say Craig opted for the Vtec lumps and at a later date he wanted to go VAG, you may as well just rip everything out and start again - and the point in that is?

I'd go what Maxwell has said, and I said that from the start. Go for a 1.8, preferably a VAG engine, tuning potenital is much higher for a start and will be less expensive in the long run. Plus these engines are pretty bullet proof and right up there with the Japs

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Like I said. If you have an intended use then build the car for it and maximise its potential for its intended purpose. I would bet its easy to swap a B16 to a B18 if he required at a later date. He doesnt want the fastest car on the planet. You dont pick a 1.6 for that but he does want the fastest 1.6.
It does not always cost a lot to fit a different engine. My racecar has two top mounts so I can either fit the 1.9 Mi16 or the 1.8 XU7JP engine. Probably cost me less than £100 more.

craig180^p · 3rd March 2010, 15:28

Exactky kam.

I'm sort of deviating from my original plan, which is unlike me, so back to square one. B16b hunt continues.....

KamRacing · 3rd March 2010, 15:44

The trick is to choose an engine to be competitive. I could try to enter my car in class A. I could build a 300+bhp 2.4 engine but I would have to race against super touring cars and other supercars like the noble. The people in the top classes are more likely to have lots of experience, and more likely to have a bigger budget than me.
By making mine under 1750cc I can race against production spec M3's and vectra challenge cars. A far easier class to get some trophies in.
If all you want to do is go fast - fit a bigger engine. If you want to win then give yourself the best opportunity to do so. Its not just about you when racing.
Kev

lilwayne · 4th March 2010, 19:48

ouch man your other saxo was a beast and this one . . .well cant call it a beast more of a track day slut when she is up and running

craig180^p · 9th March 2010, 13:13

Bought a 1.8 20v Turbo.......

Andy_K · 9th March 2010, 13:23

Good stuff!!!
Same class as Mine would be in then iirc

whitevancam · 15th March 2010, 10:13

Was interested in this thread and subscribed to it as was planning on doing the vtec conversion myself.

Am now really, really interested in this thread!!!!!

Will be very interested to know the weights of these engines and boxes if you get the chance, inpartcular the total weight of the old saxo 16v lump with gearbox inlet and exhaust etc, and then the same for the 1.8T as I will be using mine on track days not just in a straight line.

Maxwell · 15th March 2010, 11:36

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Originally Posted by saxo180

Bought a 1.8 20v Turbo.......

hahaha see my opinions do count

get cracking mate! 300bhp+ ftw!!!

i would say using polo gti shafts etc, you could get the tracking spot on and then do a lot of relocation - power steering pump and battery etc

will be the most epic car on here!

if i had of still been working in france, my blue vts was to get the same treatment, as the front chassis legs where not up to much and also seeing the space framed saxo on ssc, i had an idea of vag 1.8 20vt - was getting engine, box and loom for £650

craig180^p · 15th March 2010, 12:31

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Originally Posted by saxo180

Bought a 1.8 20v Turbo.......

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Originally Posted by Andy_K

Good stuff!!!
Same class as Mine would be in then iirc

Quote:

Originally Posted by whitevancam

Was interested in this thread and subscribed to it as was planning on doing the vtec conversion myself.

Am now really, really interested in this thread!!!!!

Will be very interested to know the weights of these engines and boxes if you get the chance, inpartcular the total weight of the old saxo 16v lump with gearbox inlet and exhaust etc, and then the same for the 1.8T as I will be using mine on track days not just in a straight line.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maxwell

hahaha see my opinions do count

get cracking mate! 300bhp+ ftw!!!

i would say using polo gti shafts etc, you could get the tracking spot on and then do a lot of relocation - power steering pump and battery etc

will be the most epic car on here!

if i had of still been working in france, my blue vts was to get the same treatment, as the front chassis legs where not up to much and also seeing the space framed saxo on ssc, i had an idea of vag 1.8 20vt - was getting engine, box and loom for £650

Sorry guys, the 20vT is stopping in the new car and I'm sticking with my original plan of fitting a B16b into the saxo so I can run in Gp A for a while.

I reckon 200bhp will be more than enough for my sedate driving style and it means it should handle a damn sight better than with a big heavy lump up front.

Think I've sourced a new engine so I should have a proper update pretty soon!