just got a macbook pro! - Page 6 - Saxperience

Barry123 · 26th July 2011, 13:31

Glad the use of Super PI was popular... take it the mac fan boys either tried it, saw the results against the windows one I popped up and decided to not post their results?

SSD's are the tits by the way. Actually lol'd (a bit) the first time mighty windows booted up. woop

baker556 · 26th July 2011, 17:27

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Originally Posted by adsayer

Glad the use of Super PI was popular... take it the mac fan boys either tried it, saw the results against the windows one I popped up and decided to not post their results?

SSD's are the tits by the way. Actually lol'd (a bit) the first time mighty windows booted up. woop

I ran it on my pc ads, 32m took 14mins and i thought my pc was quick being quad core, does everything very quickly, yours must be lightning quick!

Can't see any mac on the market beating your impressive results. The clocking obviously helps out alot.

Frankay · 30th July 2011, 20:23

Im still here! i havnt bothered trying to benchmark yet ive no idea if someone has made a programme for mac to benchmark things im sure theres something in my utlities that tests everything il have a browse now. If not il find something online.

Manu · 31st July 2011, 10:28

To be honest I could not be bothered to download and install some benchmark software on my computer, test it and post the results in a small section of a small forum that is a bout small cars. Mine does what I want and does it fast, no need for such dribble. Smells like any other saxo vs corsa redtop thread.

If PCs were effectively so much more efficient, every professional in the sound and video world would be using PCs. They probably all stupid and/or fanboys. Adsayer: I'm somehow curious to know what do you use your overclocked machine for.

haz_pro · 31st July 2011, 11:10

Why is everything about sound and video with you Manu? Im sure the majority of PC's and macs are not even used for that...

Manu · 31st July 2011, 11:22

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Originally Posted by haz_pro

Why is everything about sound and video with you Manu? Im sure the majority of PC's and macs are not even used for that...

probably because that's what I bought my gear for, and because lol about people needing gigapowers of the sun to check their email and browse saxperience. I have seen a few geezers drooling all over their PC specs, while all they do is play w o warcraft or other lowlife games

If I didn't need that sort of hardware, I would have bought a dual core laptop and called it a day. Oh wait, I also have that.

Barry123 · 31st July 2011, 13:45

I use mine to check my email and browse saxperience.... all 4.6GHz of it.

EDIT: in all seriousness, I use mine for photo editing, music editing (not production, just editing), playing FSX and watching porn.

devilsadvocate · 31st July 2011, 15:42

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Originally Posted by adsayer

I use mine to check my email and browse saxperience.... all 4.6GHz of it.

EDIT: in all seriousness, I use mine for photo editing, music editing (not production, just editing), playing FSX and watching porn.

Standard requirement when buying any Pc

Barry123 · 31st July 2011, 16:20

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Originally Posted by Manu

To be honest I could not be bothered to download and install some benchmark software on my computer, test it and post the results in a small section of a small forum that is a bout small cars.

The download is in double digits kB file size. It doesnt require installing either so you don't have to worry about your mac getting too stressed over that. Haha sorry, pointless cheapshot but had to be done

It's really not too much effort. It relies very much on ram size rather than raw power. So the perceived efficiency of the mac should show on the test, particularly the larger numbers.

There's a good chance I may very well eat my words but I thought as comparisons go it would be the easiest way of assessment without resorting to the usual mac/windows debate.

Bound · 31st July 2011, 17:30

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Originally Posted by Manu

If I didn't need that sort of hardware, I would have bought a dual core laptop and called it a day. Oh wait, I also have that.

If you're happy with your mac then good for you. I suspect no one with a mac will benchmark it not because "they can't be bothered" but because it will be useless. Dual core versus i7

. Ouch.

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Originally Posted by Manu

Smells like any other saxo vs corsa redtop thread.

Not at all, this is more like Saxo vs Veyron with the Saxo owner claiming he can do 60 in 2.5 and a top speed of 250. Or claiming 180bhp after a remap and a electric turbo charger

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Originally Posted by Manu

I have seen a few geezers drooling all over their PC specs, while all they do is play w o warcraft or other lowlife games

To be fair WoW is actually a demanding game maxxed out, now warcraft on the other hand is immensely popular and acclaimed game. Personally I'm only playing COD on mine atm, it's good to know I have the power there when I run more demanding stuff though.

Manu · 31st July 2011, 20:35

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Originally Posted by adsayer

The download is in double digits kB file size. It doesnt require installing either so you don't have to worry about your mac getting too stressed over that. Haha sorry, pointless cheapshot but had to be done

It's really not too much effort. It relies very much on ram size rather than raw power. So the perceived efficiency of the mac should show on the test, particularly the larger numbers.

There's a good chance I may very well eat my words but I thought as comparisons go it would be the easiest way of assessment without resorting to the usual mac/windows debate.

I'm not too stressed about my mac dealing with kb, since I usually deal in gb, multiples of. Yes, that was a pointless cheap shot and I am glad you admit it. I bought what I have because it fits a purpose. And that purpose is not about posting online a proof of how many Pi digits it can process. Pi is for noobs anyway, please come back to me with 2T next time you feel like going all smart.

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Originally Posted by Bound

If you're happy with your mac then good for you. I suspect no one with a mac will benchmark it not because "they can't be bothered" but because it will be useless. Dual core versus i7

. Ouch.

Not at all, this is more like Saxo vs Veyron with the Saxo owner claiming he can do 60 in 2.5 and a top speed of 250. Or claiming 180bhp after a remap and a electric turbo charger

To be fair WoW is actually a demanding game maxxed out, now warcraft on the other hand is immensely popular and acclaimed game. Personally I'm only playing COD on mine atm, it's good to know I have the power there when I run more demanding stuff though.

Thank you for your (feeble) attempt at trolling me again. I feel sad for you about the "WoW" and "COD"parts. Get a life mate

Barry123 · 31st July 2011, 21:55

I think you're reading me wrong dude, I'm not being hostile about this at all - just extolling the virtues and price point of the PC/Windows platform.

If you're not stressed by the kb size of SuperPI then I don't think you'd be stressed enough to at least try it? I'll give 2T ago (unless it's a Mac only platform and it's another one of these pieces of software you've 'yet to see a PC running as fast and as smooth, without crashing')

Ads

Bound · 31st July 2011, 23:30

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Originally Posted by adsayer

I think you're reading me wrong dude, I'm not being hostile about this at all

Me neither mate, I was being sincere.

I don't see why he finds it so hard to admit that the mac isn't as fast, he's in denial. It's painfully obvious to everyone in this thread (that know's what they're talking about and are willing to put their credibility on the line and test it rather than making excuses and dodging actually doing any benchmark tests

) that mac hardware is inferior, it's okay to come out mate, no one will judge you. The first step is acceptance.

Nice trollin'

. Also I didn't say I play WoW I said it's actually quite demanding. Warcraft 3 and COD are epic though. I don't understand your need to rebel and be different, makes you sound like a 15 year old emo how you hate everything mainstream/popular.

Buy a PC lad.

Manu · 1st August 2011, 05:05

I got 4 PCs already lad.

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[edited dribble] Warcraft 3 and COD are epic though. I don't understand your need to rebel and be different, makes you sound like a 15 year old emo how you hate everything mainstream/popular.

That's really sad. But then I'm not too worried when it comes from someone who puts red hammerite and brembo decals on his brakes, then said brakes fail the MOT on top of the wheels being loose. "Who put those wheels on?"

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Originally Posted by adsayer

I think you're reading me wrong dude, I'm not being hostile about this at all - just extolling the virtues and price point of the PC/Windows platform.

Fair enough. Now I had a 25% discount on my machine, that would make the price/performance ratio even more skewed

SuperPi has been here for ages and is not coded for multiple cores, so cannot be an accurate performance benchmark test software with recent computers. I could overclock my dual P4 and make it look faster than my mac, hence why I ain't too bothered. Number crunching benchmarks is ten years ago, welcome to the era of 64 bit multicore computers.

Bound · 1st August 2011, 08:02

ahahhaha. You're so full of shit it's unbelievable. The facts are simple - The mac hardware is incomparable (and outdated, synonymous to the apple logo) to any decent spec PC, you won't benchmark it or detail what you're doing on your mac so we can replicate it on a PC which will apparently crash, it gives you no credibility. Like the 9/11 threads you make claims over and over again without ever backing it up or answering questions then just taking (unfunny) digs at people. It's actually quite sad that you can't admit this on some "insignificant little car forum" (which you're posting on at 05:05 in the morning). The hardware 'debate' is clear cut, the software argument is more a point of contention (although as clear cut as the hardware argument for me)

So if the functionality is all you care about, why would you not buy the best components, build a PC (even a beautiful hand made Lian-Li case if asthetics are important, and install iOS) for half the price, then it wouldn't come with a white case with a apple on it meaning it loses it's worth and resale value

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Manu · 1st August 2011, 08:28

more dribble, carry on.

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(which you're posting on at 05:05 in the morning)

I tend to get up early. Sorry your point was?

devilsadvocate · 1st August 2011, 11:17

If someone was giving me £1500 to buy a computer, I would go and by a Macbook Pro purely because it's not my money

If I had saved £1500 and decided to by a computer then I would spend £600-£700 on a decent Windows Laptop and then spend the rest of something else

Barry123 · 1st August 2011, 12:25

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Originally Posted by Manu

SuperPi has been here for ages and is not coded for multiple cores, so cannot be an accurate performance benchmark test software with recent computers. I could overclock my dual P4 and make it look faster than my mac, hence why I ain't too bothered. Number crunching benchmarks is ten years ago, welcome to the era of 64 bit multicore computers.

That was the whole idea of using superPI dude. As said there's less emphasis on raw power and instead favours machines with large ram sizes and efficient platform coding. No harm in trying it and as said, I'll happily eat my words. I chose it not because I thought it'd show my quad core up in a positive light (since, as you say, it's not coded for multiple cores). I would have chosen hyperPI if i wanted to do that but then I suspect a mac wouldn't touch the results i would get.

Similarly I'm happy to do a modern era 64 bit multicore benchmark if preferred.

Barry123 · 1st August 2011, 12:37

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Originally Posted by Manu

Fair enough. Now I had a 25% discount on my machine, that would make the price/performance ratio even more skewed

I got windows 7 for free through the msdnaa so I'm not glum on the 25 %. I still highly doubt that would make the iMac shine out as value for money.

When I have this debate with Ryan he always mentions the resale value which I don't believe is a strong argument. I can just open mine up and pop in a new mobo and processor if I require a faster machine. With a mac you sell the entire thing and have to buy another insanely overpriced iMac. Higher resale value or not, mac user would still be out of pocket more than the IBM platform user. Case in point was our lab which went IBM plat. to mac and then reverted back to IBM two years later. The cost for replacing the macs offset against the sale of the old ones was less than simply buying new windows machines, with more power to boot.

Ryan^p · 1st August 2011, 12:49

Adam you forget though that not everyone wants to/is ever going to open up their pc.

I had pcs for years, I was never interested in removing it and upgrading largely because I dont know where to start. Id buy a 1k machine or wtf it was and within months it was worth fuck all.

Look at it from a non geeky point of view about wanting to strip the thing down and rebuild it every 5mins a new processor comes out.

Pcs dont hold value well Macs do (thanks to the fact its a highly desirable product). So if you can afford the initial price of purchasing one its not that bad, plus my Imac you dont need much computer geekness to upgrade the ram.