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15th November 2007, 13:10
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they are a copy of the pugsport items, so do the job very well, allow a decent induction length as they are direct to head, have a good angle manifold etc
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15th November 2007, 13:14
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we have the same problem with the corsa's engine bay and the jenveys werent a problem, we have removed the scuttle panel only to allow us to use 90mm long trumpets which help allot with improved power and torque.
jenvey have designed a set up for the 16v engine in the saxo/106 that works very well and maximises performance gains whilst utilising the little space that there is as this is also a direct to head fit. (jenvey do know what they are on about as im sure your aware)
if you were hell bent on wanting the dth set up we could look into this for you but we couldnt do it for the price we do the jenveys for this is because we have such a good relation with jenvey as we use them for all out tb set ups and have only sent people away with a smile on their face lol
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15th November 2007, 13:18
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Obviously the key question here is... Will it make a noticeable difference going for either setup? Hmm...
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15th November 2007, 13:19
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Dan, have you ever setup any 106 / VTSs with iTBs?
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Some say hes the biggest drug dealer in Toadville!
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and that his dealings even stretch as far as Brazil!
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All we know is that he's called the Toad!
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15th November 2007, 13:22
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tbh i really dont think it would lol that bit of extra cash in your pocket could go a long way im sure. the throttle bodies all work on the same principle, most of the time it comes down to how well the car has been mapped after they have been fitted we have tried a whole host of different set ups on our corsa and only seen 4-5bhp difference between different inlet lengths and inlet angles to the head etc, you can get that 5bhp back just buy spending another hour on the dyno mapping it.
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15th November 2007, 13:24
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#146
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myself i have not done the tb set up on that specific car but have on many other cars. but dave who also works here has, although they are just a 1600cc 16v engine tho no different to working on any other engine at the end of the day.
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15th November 2007, 13:26
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id like to go the full whack, but dont have 2,5k.
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15th November 2007, 13:32
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£2300
i dont think anyone would say that isnt a very reasonable price especially fully mapped on a rolling road.
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15th November 2007, 13:41
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It is a very reasonable price, i paid that for my tb's, ecu wideband and display, let alone the mapping...
But my mapper has just built a 320@wheels s/c saxo Lol.
Not doubting your ability, sounds like a very good price, very worth while getting in contact and talking things over Sam, Toad rush etc
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15th November 2007, 14:01
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Originally Posted by dan-t
myself i have not done the tb set up on that specific car but have on many other cars. but dave who also works here has, although they are just a 1600cc 16v engine tho no different to working on any other engine at the end of the day.
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The reason I ask Dan, is because there's this word going around that when fitting a standalone ECU to a MKII 106 / VTS, you lose the use of the oil temp and coolant temp. QEP have been plugging the KMS wideband, because of this, saying you can use the display to view the oil and coolant temp that you would otherwise lose...
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Some say hes the biggest drug dealer in Toadville!
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and that his dealings even stretch as far as Brazil!
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Originally Posted by Colin
All we know is that he's called the Toad!
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15th November 2007, 14:08
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The omex 600 is about the most advanced ecu system for the money, it has features such as launch control, datalogging, wideband control, knock sensor to control ign advance, idle control etc... it can control pretty much any auxilliary gauges for oil temp, pressure, fuel pressure, water temp, vaccum/boost......
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15th November 2007, 14:12
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exactly the same thing and more you can get with a emerald
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15th November 2007, 14:15
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The omex 600 is the dogs bollock!!!!
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15th November 2007, 14:18
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one for you rush mate!
des developments have gave me a price of £380 inclusive of vat to fit a new head gasket, skim the head, re grind the valves fit new stem seals replace the cambelt/tensioners and time up the 708s! and there getting back to me on a price for the omex fitted and mapped
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15th November 2007, 14:19
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now thats what i call a baragin
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15th November 2007, 14:19
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yes we already know this why do you think im plugging it so much lol we dont deal with shit products. we have it on the vsport corsa and have barely scraped the surface of its capabilities
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15th November 2007, 14:20
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#157
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snap their hands off for that sort of money lol thats a silly price
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15th November 2007, 14:23
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yes we already know this why do you think im plugging it so much lol we dont deal with shit products. we have it on the vsport corsa and have barely scraped the surface of its capabilities
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Are we refering as Emerald products being crap?
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15th November 2007, 14:25
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#159
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no we deal with emerald also and we map them, we just offer the omex 600 series as part of the itb package. we "prefer" omex to emerald each to their own tho isnt it
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15th November 2007, 14:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by leeroybrown
now thats what i call a baragin
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thats what i thort mate lol! might book it in
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