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16th May 2009, 19:54
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#121
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Yorkshire
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Brighouse, W. Yorks
Posts: 3,699
Car(s): Citroen C4 VTR Coupe
Porsche 924
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Quote:
Originally Posted by VTSTomE
2.5k will see you breathed,cammed and headwork i would say.
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I spent a little less than that and I have 162BHP.
Quote:
Originally Posted by ch45e
hi i have a saxo running very near to 200bhp its had about 2500 in mods for the engine all done by performance pug
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So if you can tell me how to find another 37 horse or so with the remainding £900 id be a happy man.
Engine consists of;
Newman PH3 cams
Head Work
Polished and Ported TB
4-2-1 mani
Magnex exhaust
Custom airfilter and pipe
Chipped ECU
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16th May 2009, 19:57
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#122
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Frequent Poster
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: somerset
Posts: 937
Car(s): 16v ITB'd powered S1 Rallye
& 256bhp civic EG
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Quote:
Originally Posted by titchster
Now, i'm all for believing it, but in reality, that cam and 'stage 3' head making only 5bhp more than mine?
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maybe it was specifically made to make power all way through rev range as apposed to at the top?
when i was last at the dyno people laughed when my mates 2.0 golf made less power than some other 1.8s
but then wonder why he spanks all of them every single time
RR figures quote the highest bhp figure which is more than likely at the top if the rev range, its all about constant power imo all the way from the word go
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16th May 2009, 19:59
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#123
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Frequent Poster
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: somerset
Posts: 937
Car(s): 16v ITB'd powered S1 Rallye
& 256bhp civic EG
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nij
I spent a little less than that and I have 162BHP.
So if you can tell me how to find another 37 horse or so with the remainding £900 id be a happy man.
Engine consists of;
Newman PH3 cams
Head Work
Polished and Ported TB
4-2-1 mani
Magnex exhaust
Custom airfilter and pipe
Chipped ECU
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have you not changed the inlet mani in any way shape or form? i emailed a bloke who claimed 167bhp and he sent me pics of his inlet mani having work on it
why not run TB's?
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16th May 2009, 20:39
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#124
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Tonbridge United Kingdom (England)
Posts: 38,236
Car(s): Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex_Oldroyd
any more than 150 - 160 and u have trouble using it all, decent suspension and brake setup can be worth its weight in gold on a track rather than a million french horses.
Mine made 124.9 totally standard on bhp tuners rollers
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I dont have trouble using between 180-200bhp
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Originally Posted by nath106
10bhp there atleast
the 180bhp was a complete gimmic
ive yet to see a figure higher than 167bhp thats a road based engine
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*waves*
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16th May 2009, 21:04
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#125
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Frequent Poster
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: somerset
Posts: 937
Car(s): 16v ITB'd powered S1 Rallye
& 256bhp civic EG
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ahh ryan ive pmed you iirc
yeh as said ive never seen anyone with a proven figure higher than 167 but ive never chased figures in the pug world, honda however, doe get me started!
i bet your spec must be awsome!?
got any build up threads/spec lists?
dont wanna hi-jack the thread but i want to build a quick 16v track car and what ive allways thought is that fact that its a 1.6, so is never worth spending the money!?
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16th May 2009, 21:06
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#126
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Tonbridge United Kingdom (England)
Posts: 38,236
Car(s): Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut
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see the link in my sig to the progress thread.
im a bit more than the 160s
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16th May 2009, 21:08
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#127
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Frequent Poster
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: somerset
Posts: 937
Car(s): 16v ITB'd powered S1 Rallye
& 256bhp civic EG
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fuk a shit, did i just read 198BHP? <drools>
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16th May 2009, 21:44
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#128
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Tonbridge United Kingdom (England)
Posts: 38,236
Car(s): Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nath106
fuk a shit, did i just read 198BHP? <drools>
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Ja, rollers are sceptical but it made 184 when freshly made, so should be a bit more now its freed up (was mapped with 50miles on it) it needs the mapping tweeking so should see a bit more aswell.
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16th May 2009, 21:53
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#129
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Frequent Poster
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: somerset
Posts: 937
Car(s): 16v ITB'd powered S1 Rallye
& 256bhp civic EG
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thats damn awsome mate!
i dont surpose you were at brands hatch on the 20th of feb?
if so did you see a lil white s1 bombing round?
did you get my pm ok?
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17th May 2009, 00:46
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#130
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Tonbridge United Kingdom (England)
Posts: 38,236
Car(s): Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut
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Nah last time i was at brands was late jan iirc, not driven the car since then as its having an entire rewire of the car because of an electrical fault we discovered/it broke
I posted in the thread about the cams
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17th May 2009, 13:24
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#131
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Saxperience Forum Bum
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 3,932
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nij
I spent a little less than that and I have 162BHP.
So if you can tell me how to find another 37 horse or so with the remainding £900 id be a happy man.
Engine consists of;
Newman PH3 cams
Head Work
Polished and Ported TB
4-2-1 mani
Magnex exhaust
Custom airfilter and pipe
Chipped ECU
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what did you get at the wheels?
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17th May 2009, 13:40
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#132
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Established Member
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: warwickshire
Posts: 1,028
Car(s): 3 saxo's
2 audi's
205
mr2
rover 200
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my old vts had 15bhp at the wheels all it had done to it was 421 air ilter.but the bloke that had it befor me raced saxo so think it mite have a couple of tweeks
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17th May 2009, 13:45
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#133
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Saxperience Forum Bum
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 3,932
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Quote:
Originally Posted by saxojamesb
my old vts had 15bhp at the wheels all it had done to it was 421 air ilter.but the bloke that had it befor me raced saxo so think it mite have a couple of tweeks
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15 bhp yea?
seens abit under powered?
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17th May 2009, 13:48
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#134
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Established Member
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: warwickshire
Posts: 1,028
Car(s): 3 saxo's
2 audi's
205
mr2
rover 200
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lol 150bhp would be well pist i was only 15 lol
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17th May 2009, 13:54
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#135
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Saxperience Forum Bum
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 3,932
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you got 150 bhp at the wheels from a manifold and an air filter?
Last edited by gouldy87; 17th May 2009 at 13:58.
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17th May 2009, 13:56
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#136
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Tonbridge United Kingdom (England)
Posts: 38,236
Car(s): Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut
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150 ATW from just a filter and manifold? So about 180ATF?
Ponders the 60bhp inprovement there
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17th May 2009, 14:03
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#137
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Established Member
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: warwickshire
Posts: 1,028
Car(s): 3 saxo's
2 audi's
205
mr2
rover 200
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yeah had it rolling roaded at my mates place they was shocked when i got the car it ws fast so think it had been played with
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17th May 2009, 14:07
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#138
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Saxperience Forum Bum
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 3,932
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Quote:
Originally Posted by saxojamesb
yeah had it rolling roaded at my mates place they was shocked when i got the car it ws fast so think it had been played with
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there is no way in hell your saxo got 150 at the wheels from a manifold an an air filter.
ive got a cammed and mapped vts thats got 137.1 at the wheels
im not having that for a min
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17th May 2009, 14:08
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#139
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Established Member
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: warwickshire
Posts: 1,028
Car(s): 3 saxo's
2 audi's
205
mr2
rover 200
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lol dnt have it then doesnt bother me lol i did have print out but went with car lol
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17th May 2009, 14:10
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#140
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Saxperience Forum Bum
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 3,932
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Quote:
Originally Posted by saxojamesb
lol dnt have it then doesnt bother me lol i did have print out but went with car lol
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lordy lordy!!!
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