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Old 11th March 2011, 22:42   #101
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I have the gaz gold single adjustment dampers, with 350lbs 6" springs, Gaz fitted/modified the legs to fit the coilovers, adding camber to them, and also lowering and turning the steering arms upside down, Provisions to lower the car right down basically with minimal affect on bump steer.
removed the front arb too, but wouldnt mind trying a small one. only have a gti one myself. thing it might be too much!
that is a nice setup...Opinion.

similar to what i use and dont lower the cat to mutch.






not just coilover kit but big mod in the strusts whith a new tube to acept 41mm bilsteins,can easely convert to gravel.
the rear ones are full rose jointed and doubles sizes off b8 bilsteins will put fotos.
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Old 23rd April 2011, 13:48   #102
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ok this is the right ones....

they are circuit race spec...

full rose jointed . as you can see they are mutch larger then b8



they are very similar to the tecnoshoks ones...

i payded 1270 euros for all 4 !! just fit to the car..

very good price!!i takes a 3 week time to be made...the rally spec is stok..but for circuit as to be worked again.
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Old 23rd April 2011, 14:50   #103
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what spring rating is that?

the rear damper looks like the AST rear damper,
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Old 29th April 2011, 21:38   #104
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i can give you the contact off the builder off the shoks...

they are at good price for the quality and are made to your request can also convert for gravel but have to change the rear ones....

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Old 27th August 2011, 18:23   #105
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besides the good looking the front one are not working as should ...maybe ok for tarmac rally but not for circuit....seen a 106 forum ..and it seams the problem is a very long spring, i wll take them out off the car and back to builder.

anyone whith the same problem?? the car is to high...and the springs are at the lower limit...

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Old 27th August 2011, 22:26   #106
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Check the spring length and get shorter ones. At a guess you are running an 8 inch spring. If so try a 6" at the same poundage and work from there. Sometimes a little experimentation is needed to get it right.
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Old 13th November 2011, 16:24   #107
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so ive trieded the cheper track day set-up whitch is:

normal shocks whith a quicl travel to suspencions workshop and they make then A LOT HARDER, plus normal lowering coils -20mm??

the result? i loved it , the are a lot hard then the billis coilovers and the cost less the half the price.

you can send even a blowed old strut and the can return a circuit capable struts , the same for the rear.

its a oem saxo strut rebuild plus difrent dampening .

at mx and enduro bikes this is a normal mod.


i ve send my coils back to the builder and demand for " a KART " type suspencions.


also go to try camber to adjust plates, the ones that screw on top!!!
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What sort of handling would you get from a car that has been lowered front but not at the back?
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more oversteer probably. Depends how extreme the difference is and how stiff the front setup is though
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Is there a setup out there for 106 that allows you to keep a standard ride height/comfort?
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Old 14th November 2011, 20:57   #111
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i has been lowered front and back ..
the point is..coilovers wont justify.

if trackday day only car, a decent upgrade modifieded stock rear ones and modfied front stock sruts can made a very good circuit ones, and alot cheaper..

www.sosuspensoes.com


take a look at this one...PS: only example , this is not my suspencion guy!!!!
but as alot off fotos.

if rally ..i would say thar coilis are inspensable for suspecion travel...we (i think) search for controled stifeness.
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other subject to have in consideracion and also can make some notiçable difrence is keep de weels ligned not to zero degrees but 0.5 opened to 1.0 opened the last will favor turning but slower on straits the first aslo turn good but is faster on strait.

sorry for the english. i m from Portugal.

if someone know anything abaut toe caster camber CIRCUIT mods for our loved car
would be aprecieted!!
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Is there a setup out there for 106 that allows you to keep a standard ride height/comfort?
Errr... the standard suspension set up.
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Yes that was the answer i was looking for dave thankyou don't know what a help you've just been to me lol

You know what i meant!
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How do people go about setting up there dampers (for people with adjustable bump and rebound)?

Do you just adjust till what you feel is adequate? I know this would different to road than on track.
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Old 28th January 2012, 23:22   #116
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http://www.rtec.ws/amortisseur-106-saxo.php



nice brakes also!!
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Old 14th February 2012, 20:32   #117
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hello..

so my new/old coilovers just arrived,

big difrence is the spring ..old springs was 250-60-60

new ones are 200-60-70

the first number il the spring lendg 200mm
the secoud is the spring diamete
the third number is the stifness...
all in mm

200-60-70 Rate 70 N/ ~ 400 lb, block 89 mm

is 400lb to mutch??for hardcore circuit saxo?
it will run more negative camber
, as they came whith included adjustable top monts -2.4...

tomorow will put pics..
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is 400lb to mutch??for hardcore circuit saxo?
It depends on what tyres you use, more grip = stiffer suspension in my book.
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If running slicks and camber I'd say 400lb minimum for a full track car.
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slick AS s9b michelin....you know..the 1240 euro tyres.

verry gripiiii...i hope going the good way whith the suspencion seting this time..
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