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27th September 2012, 19:08
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What do you mean normal way?
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27th September 2012, 20:21
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2.428 1.937 1.473 1.238 1.086
just divide the bigger number by the smaller one to get the gear ratio
on a side note on the BE4 6 speed, the bellhousing needs drilling so the 5th/6th selctor can select 6th
the one on the left
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27th September 2012, 21:19
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now you see why I was asking if any bellhousing mods were required 
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27th September 2012, 21:46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by welshpug
now you see why I was asking if any bellhousing mods were required |
i know it was done to an Mi 4x4 box and had to be welded up but the BE4 already has the tube cast in to it, it just has an 8mm hole in it and needs a 13mm hole
the only other issue is the reverse lock, it wont fit on a BE4 so will have to be carefull selecting 6th and not getting reverse 
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27th September 2012, 22:00
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Originally Posted by xsi16v
What would these ratio's be like??.
1st 14x34 , 2nd 16x31 , 3rd 19x28 , 4th 21x26 , 5th 23x25 , fd 12x68
And why are they measured in a differnt way?. Can it be converted to the normal way?
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what box is that??
the 1st gear is very long and the rest are very short, i think that box would be crap for a bosted engine, it would be very short for an N/A engine
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27th September 2012, 22:18
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ahh cool, I did wonder if the casting had any form of provision to it, I guess you have seen what they did on the MIx4 for reverse stop? easy enough fix, just weld on the threaded boss.
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27th September 2012, 22:20
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no didnt see that bit and have lost the link to it
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27th September 2012, 22:54
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I'll see if I can find it, should be on the 205 foum now as the 405mi16 forum has been merged over, essentially just copy what a gti6 box has by drilling a hole andweld the boss on.
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27th September 2012, 23:07
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27th September 2012, 23:36
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not a member so wont let me see this pics and wont let me setup an account
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27th September 2012, 23:39
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tweeqd
what box is that??
the 1st gear is very long and the rest are very short, i think that box would be crap for a bosted engine, it would be very short for an N/A engine
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Its 1 of the drenth kit ratio options. Mine drives like N/A making peak power at 7900rpm so not really sure which way to go?
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28th September 2012, 04:36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tweeqd
not a member so wont let me see this pics and wont let me setup an account
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Yeah i found it in the 205 forum afterwards in the 405 section, easy to find as there's not that many threads!
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28th September 2012, 04:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xsi16v
Its 1 of the drenth kit ratio options. Mine drives like N/A making peak power at 7900rpm so not really sure which way to go?
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That way! Just match a final drive to what top speed your wanting
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28th September 2012, 10:12
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28th September 2012, 10:36
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DERP, images haven't transferred yet in the 405-205 forum merger, so here they are:
Completed BE3TK2 Mix4 box.
Lift up reverse Boss welded on.
making the hole
cap for longer selector shaft where it pokes through into bellhousing.
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28th September 2012, 19:29
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2.428 1.937 1.473 1.238 1.086 FD 5.66
How do i work out max speeds of each gear with 8000rpm limit?. Sorry for being a prat, as i said this is all new to me!
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28th September 2012, 19:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tweeqd
no moding needed, just swap the 2 shafts and 2 slectors in to the BE4 bellhousing and then fit the 6 speed end cap, the only bit i havent swapped over is the cable to allow you to select reverse although there is the mount needed on the BE4 bellhousing if you wanted it.
ive put a buzzer on the reverse light switch that will sound in the car when reverse is selected so i cant get the wrong gear at the pod lol
as for hitting the wheel, it doesnt stick out further than the chassis leg
you could prob get away without cutting as much as i did |
Does this gearbox use the standard BE cogs? The GTI-6 used thinner cogs I think so is not great for boosted cars. (and aftermarket parts are stupidly expensive..)
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28th September 2012, 20:24
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#78
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KAM looking at the gears they are the same as the standard BE ones so will cope with boost aswell as the BE ones do
cheers welshpug, after what you said last night i had a look at it today
the boss needed unscrews from the 6 box
and PSA very kindly put the provision in the BE4 bellhousing to accept it
it wont quite fit so after turning it down a bit
and then drilling the box and tapping to 19x1.5, the boss fits in the perfect place
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28th September 2012, 20:38
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#79
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haha, bloody brilliant  the 6 box is a BE3/4 hybrid after all 
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