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Old 31st May 2012, 11:30   #1
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Smile need more bhp on my 1.6 vtr 8v sitting at 120bhp atm

i want to add more bhp to my vtr at the moment its sitting at 120bhp with a straight through and a k&n air filter

any suggestions to what i could do to increase it?
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Old 31st May 2012, 11:31   #2
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is that all your car is running? and what makes are these parts as to see 120 with them two is very unlikely!
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Old 31st May 2012, 11:43   #3
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20bhp from an exhaust and filter... wow.
remap? Did you have it RR'd?
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Old 31st May 2012, 11:49   #4
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It wont be running 120bhp from an exhaust and filter.

Your name suggests the car is turbo'd. If thats the case look into injectors, standalone management etc.
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8 more valves!
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It wont be running 120bhp from an exhaust and filter.

Your name suggests the car is turbo'd. If thats the case look into injectors, standalone management etc.
Hadnt noticed that... 120bhp from a turbo is very poor though. I doubt it would be though because i would assume he would have mentioned it with the exhaust and filter.

OP- Your next step would probly be to add a cam in there.
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Old 31st May 2012, 12:16   #7
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If only tuning worked that way, my old S14 would have had about a thousand horses!
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120bhp from those mods - no chance that's either adding on figures or a quote me happy set of rollers.

Ditch the 8v and go for the 16v lump.
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i want to add more bhp to my vtr at the moment its sitting at 120bhp with a straight through and a k&n air filter

any suggestions to what i could do to increase it?
As people have said, 120bhp from those mods on a VTR is not possible.

What sort of filter is it, replacement panel, cone, enclosed?
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You'll be lucky to have 100bhp
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Dont discount the 8v, they can make good power with a few trick bits. Unfortunately a filter and exhaust system is not enough
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Old 31st May 2012, 15:12   #13
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i bought the car and was told by the previous owner that was the amount of bhp it had so they obviously was talking shit, i was told there was some type of silver head engine
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i dont know much about it so any help is nice
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i bought the car and was told by the previous owner that was the amount of bhp it had so they obviously was talking shit, i was told there was some type of silver head engine
That means its a later type vtr engine, 100brake standard, but pipe and filter alone wont give you 20 brake

A cam would be the next step
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Standard silvertop isnt amazing, especially with roller rockers and soft valve springs
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Old 31st May 2012, 15:20   #17
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where would i get a good one??
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Get a 16v you will spend so much tuning a 8v and will just about break even with 16v power standerd.
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would better rockers and valve springs do much?
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Old 31st May 2012, 15:40   #20
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it isnt turbod yet but i will be planning on doing it at some stage
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