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3rd August 2009, 00:52
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2.0 Xsara Vts engine into a saxo?
easily done or not? anyone on here done it before? got my vtr ready for track DEATH! but the 8v engine in the vtr's just arnt fast enough even with a few mods.
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3rd August 2009, 00:54
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anyone used the search function before?
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3rd August 2009, 01:07
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Never been done (I think), and will never be done.
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3rd August 2009, 01:17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mieran
Never been done (I think), and will never be done.
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Gti-6 engine has been done many a time, also the xsara engine into a 106 rallye.
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3rd August 2009, 01:18
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In a Saxo? I've never seen that.
Links for progress threads etc?
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3rd August 2009, 01:33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mieran
In a Saxo? I've never seen that.
Links for progress threads etc?
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Saxos and 106s..
Just cars I know have been done. Pug performance did a gti-6 in a saxo at least 2years ago, I was there when they were finishing it off.
Not everyone who mods cars sits on forums and does progress threads 
The xsara s1 rallye, was Ryan cooke iirc on rallye reg, he bought it bodged and did alot of work, i stopped reading RR before he finished it mind.
Then there was a forgiegn gti-6 saxo out at the ring when my mates went.
Pug performance gti-6 106.
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3rd August 2009, 10:47
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what gets me is how people will see that and think woo it fits (even though its a lot of work)
without realising the inlet is where the rad should be so then you need to either move or get a custom rad
and you dont see the custom drivshafts
gear linkages for the box
throttle cable will be different
wiring
theres a lot to do
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3rd August 2009, 10:53
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waste of time an money imo
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3rd August 2009, 12:39
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Car(s): renault 5 ( gtt lookalike) peugeot 106 1.1 , saxo
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defo a waste of money u might as well just buy a car thats already done or just buy a faster car simple as really.
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3rd August 2009, 20:05
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Quote:
Originally Posted by VTR_Andy
easily done or not? anyone on here done it before? got my vtr ready for track DEATH! but the 8v engine in the vtr's just arnt fast enough even with a few mods.
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Yes seen it done ,but its not easy to do...... 
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3rd August 2009, 20:13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AlexB
without realising the inlet is where the rad should be so then you need to either move or get a custom rad
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this is the first thing i thought about. could you not use one of the custom short inlets the gti-6 guys use when they fit superchargers?
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3rd August 2009, 23:00
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Originally Posted by Ryan
anyone used the search function before?
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first of all...cheers for your help, thats why i dont come on here or any other forums really. always some nob head on it. Thanks to the other members though who actually have given me abit of info about it. what engines would people recomend to put in a saxo? heard the MI16 out of a 406 goes pretty much straight in, obviously with a diffrent gear box and driveshafts etc...
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3rd August 2009, 23:03
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just leave the vts engine in and tweak it imo
the several k you could have a bigger lump with would get a few tasty bits on the vts lump and it wouldnt mess up the handeling with a heavy lump up front
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i passed over 5 years ago now. 3 points no crashes. I'm too good to crash...
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3rd August 2009, 23:16
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Didn't think the MI16 was an easy conversion either tbh?
Easiest and most cost effective conversion would be a VTS lump, or the newer JP4 lump out of 307's etc (1.6 16v). As Alex said, the money you would save in custom fabrication could be put towards some tasty tweaks instead
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7th August 2009, 23:49
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cheers guys, its only the vtr engine atm. was just looking into the xsara one before i opted to have the saxo vts lump again. already had a saxo vts though and just wanted something abit different! will have a think on what to do 
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8th August 2009, 00:02
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i was gonna do it but exhaust manifold positioning and custom drive shafts put me off big time, but would be fast and diffrent from the norm
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8th August 2009, 00:07
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Hmm didn't know the 307's engine went in? What sort of power do they have and would it be costly?
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8th August 2009, 00:07
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None of the XUs or DWs slot straight on by a long shot.
The mounts don't match up or anything, there is very limited space.
If you put it in correctly then the steering rack and bulkhead are in the way of the exhaust manifold, if you move it to solve that then it's quite far forwards. The sump sits very low also. You can only fit the 5 speed gearbox as the 6 is just miles too long.
I was going to do it for a laugh and i might still but just as a project on the side.
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8th August 2009, 13:07
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8th August 2009, 13:15
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vts or gti cams gd air flow and back presser with a gd remap =  sex power
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