Curious And Bored!! - Saxperience

S34MER · 27th June 2006, 14:30

Right then, If you had a VTS and did every mod possible to it despite funds so for example turbo'd runnin 26psi, upgraded cams, ECU re-map, high comp pistons, bored head, the works basically, what do reckon it would run @ im talkin just bhp??? thought it would be a bit of a topic as i was thinkin bout it I thought I would share my random thoughts with you guys!!
Oh and one more thing, is it possible to supercharge and turbo a saxo, i've seen it don on both a skyline r34 and a supra tt but seein as a saxo isn't really and comparison to either of these i just wondered if it was possible!!

cheers

Oli

Clouds_mate · 27th June 2006, 14:33

My X girlfriend was Curious and Bored....Shes now a lemon

saxoash · 27th June 2006, 14:33

wouldnt know bout bhp, ratty would be your man for that, but yeah you can turbo and super charge any car if you have the cash

S34MER · 27th June 2006, 14:34

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Originally Posted by Leckie

My X girlfriend was Curious and Bored....Shes now a lemon

LMAO

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hesslevtr · 27th June 2006, 14:34

supercharged and turbocharged has been done iirc but was in a diffrent country

it all depends on how its set up to what bhp you get

Barry123 · 27th June 2006, 14:41

If you made the engine block and all the components out of kyptonite you could stuff shit loads of air in the cylinders and could get 1000's of horsepower + you could kill superman.

Within material engineering limits. I reckon around 400 - but kiss goodbye to reliability, your chassis, gearbox, and license

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Problem is... increase in air will result in an increase in power which is an increase in heat, which will wear parts out. A 1.6 running to the absolute max (and well outside its design tolerance) is bound to go bang fairly quickly.

400 my answer

S34MER · 27th June 2006, 14:42

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Originally Posted by hesslevtr

supercharged and turbocharged has been done iirc but was in a diffrent country

REALLY!!! i'd love to c that!!

hesslevtr · 27th June 2006, 14:47

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Originally Posted by S34MER

REALLY!!! i'd love to c that!!

no i was wrong there isnt 1 well iv just done a search for a compound charged saxo and nothing came up though talk of a twin tiurbo vtr did from dpmotorsport

senseless · 27th June 2006, 14:51

a shy 350 or less on the 1.6
i know of celica modded the hell with just over 400 but there are some with a 500+ but they have been rebored to 2.2

S34MER · 27th June 2006, 14:53

twin turbo??? core blimey!! bet that shifts! lol

hesslevtr · 27th June 2006, 14:55

not really due to the lag have a search you will find most of the stuff you need to know

saxoash · 27th June 2006, 14:55

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Originally Posted by hesslevtr

no i was wrong there isnt 1 well iv just done a search for a compound charged saxo and nothing came up though talk of a twin tiurbo vtr did from dpmotorsport

Think it was a 206 1.4 with a super charger and a turbo

saxoash · 27th June 2006, 14:56

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Originally Posted by hesslevtr

not really due to the lag have a search you will find most of the stuff you need to know

if there 2 small turbos then there wouldnt be that much lag

S34MER · 27th June 2006, 14:59

there wouldn't be much lag anyway if it had sequential turbo's would there???

Barry123 · 27th June 2006, 15:04

Pretty complex to 'add' sequential turbo's to an engine as you need a regulator and host of other stuff to alter the exhaust flow between the smaller and larger turbos.

hesslevtr · 27th June 2006, 15:04

but why have 2 tho when 1 is good enough if set up right

you can have 1 for each cylinder if you really wanted thats 4 if you didnt know

Barry123 · 27th June 2006, 15:17

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Originally Posted by hesslevtr

but why have 2 tho when 1 is good enough if set up right

you can have 1 for each cylinder if you really wanted thats 4 if you didnt know

In most cases a smaller turbo would give better for response (less lag) - due to less inertia in spooling the bloody thing up.

However at higher RPM it might not provide enough air therefore a larger turbo is required - which has a higher inertia so wont provide much boost at low rpm... so some engines... BMW's have started to adopt this... have two turbo's

small for low rpms and a big one for high rpms - it keeps the torque curve smooth

S34MER · 27th June 2006, 15:26

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Originally Posted by hesslevtr

but why have 2 tho when 1 is good enough if set up right

you can have 1 for each cylinder if you really wanted thats 4 if you didnt know

so there ya go!

Ratty · 27th June 2006, 15:59

only reason you would use 2 (turbo and supercharger) is if you had a massive turbo (e.g. one that wouldnt kick until say 6k on your standard engine) you would use the supercharger to supply the turbo so that it would kick lower down and have a massive pull (e.g. the boost would come in at say 4k instead of 6k)

max power wise id guess around the 400mark unless you used NOS in which case 500ish, but that would require large boost ie more than 2bar.

Scott^p · 27th June 2006, 16:02

Moved to engines as this could be a good thread, and most of the kids wont come in here and ruin it