Infraction System (Red/yellow cards)

[TU-Tuning]

It would be a shame if it ruined this forum, cus its quality at the mo. If peole are pricks they get slated so it hink theres enough being done already actually.

We aint in school any more

[seat-craig]

Originally Posted by PosiWestcoast

It would be a shame if it ruined this forum, cus its quality at the mo. If peole are pricks they get slated so it hink theres enough being done already actually.

We aint in school any more

agreed

[Luke]

Why is the text talk extreme?

That has been in force since I joined the site back in December last year. We all know (or should) the rules of language in the forum. We have a lot of Foreign members, so therefore text talk shouldn't be used and it's much easier to read 'proper' english.

I don't think people will be penalised for using words like 'sumthin' but if it happens time after time.

[SNewham]

is "lol" classed as text talk? because abbreviations like thatget used all the time.

inappropriate language gets used all the time but I have no problem with it. We use it in the real world.

I like this idea but I also like the idea of being free and not having restictions like not swearing or not using the occasional text talk whih can almost be second nature at times.

Also, what would you class as forum spamming? the occasional topic on here where people talk rubbish are fun to read. is that going to stop?


I agree it would control alot of the bad stuff on here but can it go too far and actually stop alot of the good things that happen on here as well?

[saxodan]

Originally Posted by PosiWestcoast

It would be a shame if it ruined this forum, cus its quality at the mo. If peole are pricks they get slated so it hink theres enough being done already actually.

We aint in school any more

Argeed 100%

[sshaxx]

im hoping its only extreme cases of whatever infraction, eg goin on a swearing rampage, being offensive when its plainly not funny and just offensive etc

otherwise the forum seems like it will be a little too strict

[SNewham]

Not what I was saying, I was just asking the question. I think the introduction of this system is right but I think some of the categorisations of these infractions need to be discussed.

Originally Posted by Simo

I know the answer...

The issues highlighted by the infraction penalties have been discouraged for many years/months. The only thing that is changing is that moderation of these issues is public.

Many times the moderators get criticised for acting, or not acting... well, now you all know what is right and what is wrong and what you can expect to happen if you do something wrong.

If you'd prefer to go elsewhere and receive abusive, confrontational moderation, I have a few links I'd be happy to pass to you,

[Luke]

At the end of the day, if you 'abuse' the forum by spamming, using text talk, slagging off other members, racial abuse or anything else mentioned above - then you should be punished for it.

At the end of the day, we all joined up for a valid reason - mine was to learn more about Saxos and meet people.

The moderators make the rules, so In my opinion you need to respect them. If you don't, why be here?

[saxodan]

Sorry for the repost but simo-
Can you "appeal" them? Say if a mod is biast (witch i doubt will ever be the case)

Think its a valid quesition..


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[Simop]

I'm glad this thread has caught your attention

There are lots of details to iron out and it wont all happen tonight.

Moderation of the forums will continue as ever... the system incorporates a 'warning' system, so memebrs can be warned without receiving a penalty. Its likely that warnings may be given initially. If repeat abuse occurrs, then inevitably, you'll receive a penalty.

This doesnt mean however that you will always receive a warning first.

At the end of the day you should ALL know whats right and wrong and what should be acceptable on a friendly discusison forum.

For 95% of the members on here, you probably wont even notice the system is in use.

[SNewham]

ok then I'm sold

where abouts do we view our infractions? in our profile?

[TU-Tuning]

I dont want points on my sax-p license lol

As long as it deals with racists etc and doesnt get silly eg we all have to talk like english teachers then im all good. Just seems a shame to ruin this...

[Luke]

Valid point Simo.

I'll admit I have a high(ish) post count, but I don't consider myself to 'spam' the forum but I just seem to post everywhere.

Like I said before, we all know the rules and should respect them. If you don't, why be on here?

[Simop]

Originally Posted by saxodan

Sorry for the repost but simo-
Can you "appeal" them? Say if a mod is biast (witch i doubt will ever be the case)

Think its a valid quesition..


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If you think you have received a penalty which is unwarranted, then contact an administrator... exactly the same as for abuse of the rep system.

[Curran]

Originally Posted by sshaxx

im hoping its only extreme cases of whatever infraction, eg goin on a swearing rampage, being offensive when its plainly not funny and just offensive etc

otherwise the forum seems like it will be a little too strict

agreed. i think the swearing infraction could be fun though as it will make people be more inventive with not so offensive words to get their point across. it will sort of be like you are talking in front of a young child and have to use words like "bugger" and "sod it". it makes it more humorous to read. specially when people get angry

[stiffler69]

What about a anything goes section would this be possible

[liamk15]

Originally Posted by saxo17s

agreed. i think the swearing infraction could be fun though as it will make people be more inventive with not so offensive words to get their point across. it will sort of be like you are talking in front of a young child and have to use words like "bugger" and "sod it". it makes it more humorous to read. specially when people get angry

fuck thats id rather have 1 point

[Luke]

I think swearing should only be used in public anyway, how often do you use it in a text message? I don't think it has the same effect on a forum as it does in person...

If that makes sense.

[stiffler69]

i was hust waiting for someon to test the water

[willsy]

Generally i think its a good idea, a trial run of course would be ideal. There are a couple of them that perhaps may/may not be needed to some extent:

Inappropriate signature content: obviously extremes should go punished, but if you're easily offended theres still the option to not display them- i personally dont view signatures

Inappropriate language- good idea! ok so its everywhere on other forums etc, but there still isnt any need for it, at least use of *** helps though

Use of text talk. Good idea again. alot of people are usually very good, but there is always occasions where the odd text word sneaks out

Inappropriate behaviour. how will this be determined? could this be linked perhaps with spamming of the forum?

Knowingly posting on wrong forum: for new members that arent fully familiar yet will mods still move it and PM with advice?

Abuse on rep system: Good idea!

Insulting other member. Good idea, will light hearted gestures be let off with? could it be linked with threatening/intimidating behaviour

Racial abuse: its a good idea to include this one, however id personally not want to associate anyone who is racially abusive with these forums and would much rather see automatic exclusion from the site. Theres no excuse from that one.


On the whole its a good idea i think. perhaps link a few and keep it a touch simpler.