Quick Question Regarding Cams - Saxperience

barnfield · 18th November 2006, 00:37

Hey guys I have a 98 vtr running only the usual exhaust and induction kit on the engine side so far. I was woundering what are the pros and cons of using cams

a rough guide to good makes, and costs etc

any helpis much appreciated!

James · 18th November 2006, 01:21

Cams/Manifold/Induction kit/Decent cat back system will see you a healthy gain buddy, cammedvtr on here has a 90bhp model.. same as yours with them mods + ported and polish hes running 122bhp

hesslevtr · 18th November 2006, 01:24

dont waste your money

imo get a vts conversion will be more bhp per £

barnfield · 18th November 2006, 10:39

this is just an idea for now. because next year after i've finished uni, i'm going for the zcars treatment, with the motorbike conversion. has anyone here done this??

what did they think of it etc. i mean 0-60 in 3.8 sounds quite good!!

rushy_23 · 18th November 2006, 10:41

Yup the Zcars Conversions are excellent. But you have to remember that
there cars are mainly aimed at track and competition.
Living with a Hyabusa Engined Saxo would be a pain in the arse for
everyday driving.
YOu would be revving the shit out of it and ragging it about cus of the
high revving engine!

Main con to installing cams is the initial cost and cost to remap to suite.

cammedvtr · 18th November 2006, 11:26

all depends what you want from your engine mate..... if you just want out right power and speed, get a engine conversion + turbo/superC, but anyone can do that. if you want to say you have a fast vrt then cam, and other enigne work is for you. each to there own man...... My advise would be to think what you want to use the car for, before spending a shit load of mular.

barnfield · 18th November 2006, 13:59

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Originally Posted by cammedvtr

all depends what you want from your engine mate..... if you just want out right power and speed, get a engine conversion + turbo/superC, but anyone can do that. if you want to say you have a fast vrt then cam, and other enigne work is for you. each to there own man...... My advise would be to think what you want to use the car for, before spending a shit load of mular.

wanting something just a bit quicker for the moment. i'm getting a motorbike conversionin about a year and half so i was woundering what sortofoverall cost it is to get the cams including set up etc...

p.s. has anyone on here done the mtobike conversion route yet??

ets2k9 · 18th November 2006, 14:01

why waste your money on cams when your dropping a bike engine in the back?

As stated the Z cars conversion aren't really intended for everyday use but it would be fun trying.

S34MER · 18th November 2006, 16:03

well to start with its a "Cam" nots "Cams" the VTR is 8V = single cam! of course you can get some decent power figures from a VTR as cammedvtr will tell you. however, i wouldn't advise camming your VTR if your looking at dropping a Hyabusa Engine in the back seats soon. save your money, im sure if you ask him cammedvtr will tell you it will cost about £700 to cam and re-map it and before you can do that, you have to look at what its going to cost to fit it, unless you know what your doing of course!

imo, you should save your dosh and put it towards some mods for your bike engine, i.e. bike throttle bodies, etc

ets2k9 · 18th November 2006, 16:45

He'll need to put something away the bike conversions aren't cheap.

sy_VTR · 18th November 2006, 17:13

bike conversion will be thousnds, if you ask me he aint getting a bike engine in back

cammedvtr · 18th November 2006, 18:22

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Originally Posted by barnfield

wanting something just a bit quicker for the moment. i'm getting a motorbike conversionin about a year and half so i was woundering what sortofoverall cost it is to get the cams including set up etc...

p.s. has anyone on here done the mtobike conversion route yet??

Like its been mentioned above mate, the cost of camming your VTR would be better added to your conversion if thats what you plan.... as for the cost of the cam and other engine work I wouldnt have a clue.... Think I paid £199.00 for the cam kit and about £50 in gaskets and stretch (sp) bolts....

As for the fitting and head work, me and my papa did all thats so there was no labour cost... Mine is running at 122bhp and thats the lowest rolling road reading ive had.... Mine isnt remapped , but it does need a little more fuel as i found out last week at Well Lane Turbo Centre...

Your call mate, but If your planning conversion I'd save your dosh because that will be mega money...

rushy_23 · 18th November 2006, 19:00

Yup close to if not more than £10000 I think ive heard!

That kind of cash fcuk a Saxo, DC5 al the way!

Harsh, but reality!

hesslevtr · 18th November 2006, 19:32

says just over 5k for a conversion

if your getting 1 dont cam it save your money for ear plugs and a big suplly of pants

rushy_23 · 19th November 2006, 08:59

£5000... Im pretty sure that cant be right. Would be great if it is though!

I was determined to see where I got £10000 from and look what I found:

Clicky - PGTi Forum Discussion

Although it doesn mention that the cost includes the car too.

cammedvtr · 19th November 2006, 10:44

I wouldnt pay £10,000 on a saxo conversion if all hell had me, when you could buy a proper car for that cost.lol

Your call thou mate..

ets2k9 · 19th November 2006, 10:44

The type R conversion is 10 I believe Rushy but the 5k figure has got be just for parts only.