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29th March 2008, 14:51
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Regular Poster
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: MEASHAM
Posts: 278
Car(s): pug 106 gti
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now i want CAMS !
i need some info on cams...
i want to cam my car but i dont know what i need and what cams are the best.. i want some decent cams.. how much are they???..
and i want to know where i should have it mapped ? and how much
thanks !
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29th March 2008, 15:04
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Saxperience Post Whore
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: skipton northyorks
Posts: 5,275
Car(s): clio 172 exclusive track toy
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woo chill mate
u want cat cams 708 or newmans ph3
price u just missed a group buy on newmans an they was cheap , full price cat cam or newmans about 300 quid remap u are talking another 300/500 quid depends were u go to have it done
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29th March 2008, 15:18
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Regular Poster
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: MEASHAM
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Car(s): pug 106 gti
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and what about fitting ?
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29th March 2008, 15:19
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Saxperience Post Whore
Join Date: Nov 2007
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fitting of the cams 100/150 quid
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29th March 2008, 16:19
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Regular Poster
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: MEASHAM
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Car(s): pug 106 gti
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what about cam followers are they needed and them vernier pulley thing sive heard about ??
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29th March 2008, 16:20
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Saxperience Hardcore!
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: e-hollywood
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no and no
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29th March 2008, 16:27
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Tonbridge United Kingdom (England)
Posts: 38,236
Car(s): Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut
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calm down and do some more research.
std gti/vts cam pulleys are adjustable so dont need new ones.
Are you staying signle tb?
headwork?
etc..
catcam 708s are good for people who dont want to go ott.
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31st March 2008, 14:59
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Frequent Poster
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Sheffield
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thought cam fitting was over 100 notes
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31st March 2008, 15:01
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Saxperience Forum Bum
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: blandiago
Posts: 4,483
Car(s): Hondaaaa
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on vtr it will be way over 100 note as you have to take the head off to fit them whereas with a gti and vts i believe you dont have to remove the head
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31st March 2008, 15:02
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Saxperience Forum Bum
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Location: blandiago
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Car(s): Hondaaaa
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so will be cheaper for the gti/vts boys
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31st March 2008, 15:02
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Saxperience Post Whore
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: United Kingdom (England)
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Budget for a remap to make to most of a cam change!
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31st March 2008, 15:09
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Saxperience Addict
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: A farm shed in Aylesbury
Posts: 14,916
Car(s): Corolla AE86
Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)
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Used to use Piper until I found Catcams. Will be using them in the S2000 engine for sure
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31st March 2008, 15:20
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Saxperience Forum Bum
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Spalding-ish
Posts: 2,512
Car(s): Mk4 Anniversary golf. 106 Quiksallye
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Not just as simple as taking of the cam covers then the cam ladders then pull the cams out. You have to take both cambelt covers off, vernier pulleys, cam belt, oil seals and pluck the followers out (if your changing them, no exscuse not to)
We had to drop the engine mount at the back to get the cambelt covers of. That was an arse.
Most garages charge 4-5 hours labour for a 16v cam change in a sax/106. And at £30+ per hour its not ubber cheap.
Remember to add in prices for gasket sealant and a new cam belt and tensioner if needed.
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31st March 2008, 15:31
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: West mids
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basically
its quite an extensive job to do on any car
and can cost quite a bit at the end of the day
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oh really.....
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31st March 2008, 15:49
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Saxperience Forum Bum
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Banbury
Posts: 4,623
Car(s): Saxo Rally Car
Evo 6
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Cat Cams short duration and high lift make them better for road use.
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31st March 2008, 16:05
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Saxperience Post Whore
Join Date: Nov 2007
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not alot of difference between cat cams 708 an newmans ph3 mate
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31st March 2008, 16:25
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Saxperience Forum Bum
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Banbury
Posts: 4,623
Car(s): Saxo Rally Car
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yer 6 degrees which is minimal and about 0.15mm.
I use Pipers atm which are far too expensive
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31st March 2008, 16:37
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Saxperience Post Whore
Join Date: Nov 2007
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pipers are a crazy price yes
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31st March 2008, 16:59
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Saxperience Forum Bum
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Banbury
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Car(s): Saxo Rally Car
Evo 6
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Agreed. All in all, you cant really go wrong with any of them.
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Colin and his legendary special bits
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31st March 2008, 17:12
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Saxperience Addict
Join Date: Nov 2006
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the chap who used to design all the good profiles for Piper went to Catcams...
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