key to more torque

[2000vtr]

whos found the best combo in mixing matching mods to gain a decent amount, well 15 -20% more than a saxo vts's standard torque output.

[classicvin]

Go derv

[2000vtr]

no thanks.

i like the 16v engines.

my old supercharged saxo was a no brainer to work out i had insane pulling power.

[Ashleyp]

buy a vtr

more torque

fact

[Aron]

The only way you will get that kind of increase is a descent cammed setup

[bigfootisblurry]

Or forced induction (turbo/supercharger)

[D--R--E--W]

Originally Posted by Ashleyp

buy a vtr

more torque

fact

Late spec vtr has 100 ft torque

Vts has 107 ft torque

[Finchowned]

Originally Posted by D--R--E--W

Late spec vtr has 100 ft torque

Vts has 107 ft torque

http://www.google.co.uk/dictionary?a...l=en&q=sarcasm

[Sophia_Bush]

Boils down to money if you want torque go boost if you want the cheaper ish option

cams, manifold, exhaust, induction remap

[ukgaz]

If going boost, go for something similar to a TD04 turbo, or some sort of diesel turbo.

[Aron]

Originally Posted by D--R--E--W

Late spec vtr has 100 ft torque

Vts has 107 ft torque

Your telling me the late vtr has as much power as it does torque?

[ukgaz]

Originally Posted by Aron

Your telling me the late vtr has as much power as it does torque?

Citroën Saxo (96-03) 1.6i VTR 3d (97)

Engine Size 1587 cc
Cylinders 4
0-60 mph 9.9 s
Power Output 90 bhp
Valves 8
Torque - 100 lb-ft
Top Speed 116 mph

Citroën Saxo (96-03) 1.6i VTR 3d (99)

Engine Size 1587 cc
Cylinders 4
0-60 mph 9.1 s
Power Output 100 bhp
Valves 8
Torque - 100 lb-ft
Top Speed 120 mph

Info according to parkers

[fastroadkid69]

yeah the vtr does have good torque. all 8valves do, te nova gte had more toque than the 16valve gsi.

[Saaamon]

Why do you want more torque over bhp?

[Lew_C]

Originally Posted by Saaamon

Why do you want more torque over bhp?

torque is where 'drivability' of the car comes from, i.e pull from low revs and responsiveness bhp is top end flat out stuff.. mostly pub talk

[Saaamon]

Originally Posted by Lew_C

torque is where 'drivability' of the car comes from, i.e pull from low revs and responsiveness bhp is top end flat out stuff.. mostly pub talk

Torque is how much work an engine can do and HP is how quickly it can do it

[Barry123]

Originally Posted by Saaamon

Why do you want more torque over bhp?

for fucks sake.

[AXracing]

Originally Posted by Saaamon

Why do you want more torque over bhp?

Its actually a very good question. Power is torque in time. You can increase torque and end up going slower. Just look at the Saxo diesel, bags or torque but poor speed as it has poor power across its rev range. If you are trying to make you car go faster you want more power preferably across as larger rev range that you can use.

[AXracing]

Originally Posted by Lew_C

torque is where 'drivability' of the car comes from, i.e pull from low revs and responsiveness bhp is top end flat out stuff.. mostly pub talk

That is not actually true. Its a very common misconception that is compounded by many new reporters and even some not so bright racing driver. People often use to work torque to represent a cars grunt but in reality it has nothing to do with that.

[Lew_C]

Originally Posted by AXracing

That is not actually true. Its a very common misconception that is compounded by many new reporters and even some not so bright racing driver. People often use to work torque to represent a cars grunt but in reality it has nothing to do with that.

well it sort of does really, in simple terms torque is just a force which can be pulled or pushed and how strongly it is rotated coming from very basic engineering work. In terms of a car engine torque is like the magnitude of the pulling force which is provided by the engine really