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10th February 2010, 16:26
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how can I tell what BHP my VTR is standard?
from what I understand some are 90 bhp and some 98 bhp?
how can I tell what mine is?
dont ask me where the cat is as I have no idea lol (not sure if this is how you tell?)
cheers
Danny
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10th February 2010, 16:27
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Car(s): 2000 Black Citroen Saxo VTS
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3 plug going into the ecu = 98
1 plug ecu = 90
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10th February 2010, 16:29
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Location: Alnwick
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Car(s): Mauritius Blue Mk2 VTR
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Im sure the MK1's are 90 BHP and the MK2's are 98 BHP, if thats where your getting mixed up?
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10th February 2010, 16:31
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Early MK2 were 90 bhp also - think the change over was W/X reg to 98. Anyway forget all that the easiest way is to just look at how many plugs are going into your ecu.
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10th February 2010, 16:38
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mine is a Y plate?
not sure where I would find said ecu? lol
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10th February 2010, 16:40
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Sorry about that, never knew the MK2's were both 90bh and 98bh!
This thread will help you alot i'd imagine mate: http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=87916
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10th February 2010, 20:29
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thanks mate, still not sure though lol
mine looks like the 3rd pic and was registered in may 2001, pretty sure the dip stick is the same as in pic 2 though, same colour and I think same position in the engine bay?
strange lol
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10th February 2010, 20:31
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also not sure where the ecu is, Im guessing its the box on the far left when looking at the pics though?
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11th February 2010, 10:06
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X reg onwards is 98bhp. W reg backwards is 90bhp.
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11th February 2010, 10:15
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X is a crossover plate, can be either or.
Y onwards is definately 98.
Tbh it makes no difference anyway, anyone who tells you otherwise is lying
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11th February 2010, 16:02
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Car(s): Peugeot 206 GTI 180, Citroen Saxo VTR
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the easiest way is by the rocker cover.
Silver = 90BHP
Black = 98BHP
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11th February 2010, 16:04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lp12790
the easiest way is by the rocker cover.
Silver = 90BHP
Black = 98BHP
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Well that's a load of bollocks.
Standard, early mk1 90bhp was blacktop, then it changed to silver top for all others...
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11th February 2010, 16:07
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thats what i was told when i asked the same question...
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11th February 2010, 16:16
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black tops are 90
first silver tops with cat under the car a 1 plug are 90
3 plug ecu are 98 with cat in the mani
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11th February 2010, 16:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lp12790
thats what i was told when i asked the same question...
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no mate ive got a silver top 90bhp and my bro had a mk2 silver top which was only 90 bhp, its very easy look at the ecu and see if there are 3 or 1 plugs on it or get it on a jack and have a look underneath for the cat
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11th February 2010, 17:19
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rolling road? 
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11th February 2010, 17:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by furio-james
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+1 lol i think every should go on a rolling road it would shock a lot of people how much bhp you car has actually lost lol
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11th February 2010, 17:52
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Easy check plugs
as said tho and I suspect that all blacktops are 90 and silvers are 98 
unsure if this is right or not??
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11th February 2010, 17:53
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seems to be alot of conflicting info in this thread lol
I havent checked to see how many plugs my ecu has yet but will do tomorrow, all I know so far is that its a Y plate, registered in May 2001, has a silver top and that it feels like its a 98 bhp model lol
Will check the ecu tomorrow, that way Ill know for sure. Pretty good really, thought I had a 90 bhp car and its gained 8 bhp overnight lol
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11th February 2010, 19:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xxo0pko0xx
Easy check plugs
as said tho and I suspect that all blacktops are 90 and silvers are 98
unsure if this is right or not?? |
No, that's not right, there are 90bhp silvertops
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Originally Posted by 1ntense
seems to be alot of conflicting info in this thread lol
I havent checked to see how many plugs my ecu has yet but will do tomorrow, all I know so far is that its a Y plate, registered in May 2001, has a silver top and that it feels like its a 98 bhp model lol
Will check the ecu tomorrow, that way Ill know for sure. Pretty good really, thought I had a 90 bhp car and its gained 8 bhp overnight lol |
It's pretty obvious if it is a 98bhp engine, there's a huge cylinder in the manifold!
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