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8th July 2007, 18:30
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What do ya think eh
What do you think about trying to reach 140 to 150 horses from a VTR.
Note to you 16v lot.... no i do not want to get a 16v then ill already have 120horses.
I want to be different and stay 8valve....
Inaway, my engine already has enough breathing mods to handlewhat ever i throw at it meaning both exhaust and airfilter.
But while doing all this i never forgot about brakes ect so i ugraded the disks and Pads , a Pair of ozultraleggera 15s with toyo R1s and also will be lowered 40 maybe 45mm useing SPAX all around
my vtr is/was the 90 horses version but im sure its around 100 now with the manifold,decat,centre section all custm made of course.
now i am wanting to use N/A arts to reach my target so things on my lit to get me there are as such
port and polish head.
cams with comlete new everything all seals springs ect.
bigger injectors
standalone magagement
bigger/better rad to keep the temp down
vts geabox
think that will get me near 145 horses or wishfull thinking lol
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8th July 2007, 18:40
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tbh 140-150 with those mods may be a little far fetched. may get 120-130. i could be wrong though. but try it and see what you get and report back.
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8th July 2007, 18:42
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wishfull thinking mate
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8th July 2007, 18:45
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throttle bodies and what you mentioned may if not some one will say
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8th July 2007, 18:51
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if you have around 4-5 grand then yeah
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8th July 2007, 18:52
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i just need to get a head and a guy i know is going to do what he can with it for buttons , then while he has it get him to stick in some cams in.
DTA is my local garages choice of management,
what else can i try to increase the horses
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8th July 2007, 18:53
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Originally Posted by bullit
if you have around 4-5 grand then yeah
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lol that will get me far more than 140 horses tho wouldnt it 200+ easy
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8th July 2007, 18:55
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not NA it wont
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8th July 2007, 19:03
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Originally Posted by 2000vtr
port and polish head.
cams with comlete new everything all seals springs ect.
bigger injectors
standalone magagement
bigger/better rad to keep the temp down
vts geabox
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Good luck with it mate hope you get it.
How do you p+p head?
And how do you get bigger injectors?
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8th July 2007, 19:19
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lol that will get me far more than 140 horses tho wouldnt it 200+ easy
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youll have to let us all know how
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8th July 2007, 19:33
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haha, this site is filling up with people thinking they can get ridiculous power figures out of small cars...
at the end of the day, they are small cars and are not meant to have stupid amounts of power and that is the reason they havent to start with...
in the quest for more power ... BUY SOMETHING BETTER
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8th July 2007, 19:33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bullit
if you have around 4-5 grand then yeah
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I think with that amount of cash and by NA tuning you should be able to get close to 140bhp possibly.
Certainly need to do a little more than you've planned so far as that might just get you past standard VTS territory.
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8th July 2007, 19:38
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you will need throttlebodies and a big fat race cam, high compression and probably forged pistons to cope..
Trim that bulkhead bit so you can run long trumpets and see wha that makes.
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8th July 2007, 19:39
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lol! i really do find the dreamers on this site getting worse day by day, if its not people who say they can turbo a car on bodies for £500 its people who think that its easy to get huge power out of 8vs with minimal work.
You will need lots spent on an 8v to hit good power, which is why most people ditch the sewingmachine and buy a proper engine.
If you want 8v power, you will need a lairy cam, which in most cases will mean the need of ITBs.
You also dont just add up power like max power says a manifold doesnt = 5bhp and exhaust 3 and a filter 2 for example, all mods work as a unit and react differently depending on the state of tune of the engine.
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9th July 2007, 09:24
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super charge it m8
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9th July 2007, 10:03
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lol i love how people say "this site".
People blind to the fact all sites have them? including ssc.
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9th July 2007, 10:05
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scott
lol i love how people say "this site".
People blind to the fact all sites have them? including ssc.
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No one mentioned the SSC Scott
This site is worse for it than most tbh. The SSC isn't as bad, but that's more down to the fact that people in the tech sections of the SSC explode at people who come on with crazy ideas, whereas they get some air time here
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9th July 2007, 10:08
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no one had to mention ssc for it to be seen as a comparison
I remember when all forums were full of these crazy ideas like drilled airboxes and octane boost adding 12million bhp.
Those were better days all round i think
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9th July 2007, 10:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scott
I remember when all forums were full of these crazy ideas like drilled airboxes and octane boost adding 12million bhp.
Those were better days all round i think
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ahh yes, those were the days
Flux capasitors, Powerboost valves and all other kinds of tat. Happy, innocent times...
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9th July 2007, 10:18
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so a flux capacitor wont improve my hp?
FUCK.
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