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17th November 2007, 14:20
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Wouldn't you need to have the head off to change the valve springs on a vts/gti ??
If you're going to take the head, then I'd put a 1.6 16v head off a C2, 307, 206.... on as a cheap BV head, re-tap the inlet manifold etc. to get the best out of the cams, and as you're going to pay £400+ to get remapped may as well do it now.
But like all things, just depends on how far you want to go and how much £££££ you want to spend !!
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17th November 2007, 20:31
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#142
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When does the group buy end? If its still on after christams im in!
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17th November 2007, 20:33
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#143
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It's looking to end around mid/end of Jan, so get in on it !!!!!
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17th November 2007, 23:55
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#144
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Location: Co Durham(north east)
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Car(s): cammed vts, (rest in pieces)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by raunchz
Wouldn't you need to have the head off to change the valve springs on a vts/gti ??
If you're going to take the head, then I'd put a 1.6 16v head off a C2, 307, 206.... on as a cheap BV head, re-tap the inlet manifold etc. to get the best out of the cams, and as you're going to pay £400+ to get remapped may as well do it now.
But like all things, just depends on how far you want to go and how much £££££ you want to spend !!
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problem is . . . .i dont think you can fit saxo performance cams into a c2 head. not a 100% sure though
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18th November 2007, 09:20
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#145
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I thought a few people had 708's in tu5jp4 heads, and run them so far without problems. I think that the cam lobes are a slightly different width, and the spacing is slightly different, but they still run okay in the jp4 head.
I think there's some stuff about it on ssc, I'll have a little read.
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18th November 2007, 09:28
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#146
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Quote:
Originally Posted by raunchz
Wouldn't you need to have the head off to change the valve springs on a vts/gti ??
If you're going to take the head, then I'd put a 1.6 16v head off a C2, 307, 206.... on as a cheap BV head, re-tap the inlet manifold etc. to get the best out of the cams, and as you're going to pay £400+ to get remapped may as well do it now.
But like all things, just depends on how far you want to go and how much £££££ you want to spend !!
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Yeh, forget the above, just read on ssc that it's not recommended to fit saxo cams in a tujp4 head!!!!
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18th November 2007, 14:48
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#147
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could someone tell me if its worth getting some for a 1.4i saxo?
And what else would i need/change if i bought some?
a PM would be cool an rep given 
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18th November 2007, 19:47
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#148
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Yup think yoou can count me in guys!
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18th November 2007, 20:03
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#149
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Quote:
Originally Posted by evans1089
could someone tell me if its worth getting some for a 1.4i saxo?
And what else would i need/change if i bought some?
a PM would be cool an rep given |
possibly mayswel source vtr engine (cheap enough) and cam that 
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18th November 2007, 21:39
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#150
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Join Date: May 2007
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I'm interested on that, but could i choose duration?
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18th November 2007, 21:53
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#151
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Saxperience Forum Bum
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jeeves put me down for some ph3's. when do you need money by? sorry i'm lazy and haven't read through all 8 pages, and rarely visit this section so haven't seen the thread 
pm me buddy.
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18th November 2007, 23:05
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#152
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: swindon
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Car(s): vts W reg Silver
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hi iam getting a de-cat and maifold dastek chip what phase cams do i need
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18th November 2007, 23:07
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#153
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ph3 would be the best mate, near identical to the 708's.
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18th November 2007, 23:13
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#154
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Location: swindon
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Car(s): vts W reg Silver
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Count me in, i have a vts 16v i want the PH3's.
1. Jeeves_101 - PH3's
2. raunchz - 16v PH3's + followers
3. b0t13 (after jan/late jan)
4. jazz_360 - PH3 (vts)
5. frankie640 - PH3 (16v and followers)
6. Dibz - PH3's + Followers
7. Pricey - PH4
8. my_vtech_eater - PH3's(vts)
9. Joshap1 -ph3 (vts)
10. garysvts (vts)
11. pug205gti87 (vts weekend)
12. Soulless
13. Bake - PH3's (GTi)[/QUOTE]
14. Bertie - vts 16v (PH3)
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18th November 2007, 23:42
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#155
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Willington, County Durham
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on doing a gti/vts turbo'd engine, what phase cams will be most suitable ? Will have steel rods and forged pistons
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18th November 2007, 23:57
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#156
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Location: Weston-S-Mare
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Quote:
Originally Posted by -J7HRD-
on doing a gti/vts turbo'd engine, what phase cams will be most suitable ? Will have steel rods and forged pistons
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not sure on that one mate, best to do a bit of searching and digging, but iirc you dont wnat anything tooo wild, so mayne ph2's!! not 100% sure tho.
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18th November 2007, 23:57
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#157
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PH3 are good alround performance cams, but if your internals are upgraded you might consider more extreme PH4. 
EDIT- or like jeeves said, maybe go easy and do ph2 
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18th November 2007, 23:59
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#158
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it is possible to run a really wild cam, but from what i've read (or can remember reading), you dont want to go too wild with the cams if you have a turbo.
as wild = high comp and turbo = low comp
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19th November 2007, 00:03
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#159
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jeeves_101
as wild = high comp and turbo = low comp
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Fair play. I'd imagine he can't go wrong with ph3 though, surely with his upgrades, but I know minus 10 about turbo'd saxos so can't really comment...
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19th November 2007, 00:20
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#160
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Established Member
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: letterkenny,donegal,ireland
Posts: 1,338
Car(s): citroen saxo VTS
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how much of a pain in the arse would new follower be to replace if i got new ones in this group buy.
im a novice mechanic nut know my way around an engine and am pretty sure i could change the cams no bother but wouldnt be able to time the engine?
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