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26th August 2008, 19:35
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quite a few have lol
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26th August 2008, 19:36
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Originally Posted by VTSJONNY
the Z20LET Engine (2.0 16v turbo vauxhall engine) with the vxr turbo and spending thousands stuggles to get 300bhp so dont think a 1.6 would
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maybe you should try fucking off to a z20let forum then instead of constantly talking utter garbage about TUs on here.
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26th August 2008, 19:37
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RYANP Sounds like you read up alot thats all you ken
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26th August 2008, 19:38
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Originally Posted by VTSJONNY
RYANP Sounds like you read up alot thats all you ken
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two TU engined cars on my drive way currently being worked on.. thats a little bit more than reading
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26th August 2008, 19:44
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its no rocket sience there the simplest engine there is
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26th August 2008, 19:46
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Originally Posted by VTSJONNY
its no rocket sience there the simplest engine there is
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Na you will find thats a gocart engine..
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26th August 2008, 19:46
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Originally Posted by VTSJONNY
its no rocket sience there the simplest engine there is
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still a very good engine, used cometitively in motorsport for a long period of time and are not as weak as you try to comment on.
As i said before i find it hard to listen to someone saying it cant be done when it has been done many a time, and someone who thinks that the new c2 head is the same as the old saxo head despite people telling you about the difference in valve sizes.
Perhaps instead of informing people that the engines are wank, or cheese, are soft you might want to either post the advice they have asked for or try not letting the door hit you on the way out.
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26th August 2008, 20:04
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gmc 's saxo is over 300 atwheels, the only thing slowing that car down is the driver on a dry day, with 6 spd air paddle shift, not a lot gona catch it, bottom end of the tu is the same as a cosworth and look at the pwr they can produce!!! tu engine is pretty built proth up to a point. peugeot took their 106 maxi up to 245bhp in development n/a ! out of a 1.6 with good drivability! some times simple is best!!!
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26th August 2008, 20:13
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RYANP Sounds like you read up alot thats all you ken
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Dozy gimp thought that premium p was part of your username lol.
And VTSJONNY how can you even comment you moron, you obv think your a knowitall because you visited a few vauxhall forums, saw that a 2.0litre vauxhall engine cant make 300bhp and you must have decided that it is impossible for any other engine smaller than 2litre to.
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26th August 2008, 20:21
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hes not even close (vtsjohnny) i know of a xe enigne thats alomost 300bhp n/a.....
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26th August 2008, 20:23
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ryanp calm down
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26th August 2008, 20:30
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LOL at what this thread has turned into. VTSJONNY you clearly dnt know what you are talking about. i would do your research before you start spouting utter garbage. Even n/a 16v tu's are being built to over 200bhp. if the vx boys cnt get 300bhp from their engines then they must be doing something wrong,
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26th August 2008, 20:33
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Originally Posted by reg_the_geza
LOL at what this thread has turned into. VTSJONNY you clearly dnt know what you are talking about. i would do your research before you start spouting utter garbage. Even n/a 16v tu's are being built to over 200bhp. if the vx boys cnt get 300bhp from their engines then they must be doing something wrong,
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hey reg, boost on here, boost on ssc.....its already getting addictive lol
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26th August 2008, 20:34
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in the future i bet im going to wish i went boost... close to 200 NA will have to do though.
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26th August 2008, 20:36
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Originally Posted by Ryan
in the future i bet im going to wish i went boost... close to 200 NA will have to do though.
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ryan, yu are feeling the same as G but i wouldnt be to disheartened as youre and his will be very very exiting engines. although for outright pace boost is best bang for buck ive learned.
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26th August 2008, 20:37
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Originally Posted by dannygti
hey reg, boost on here, boost on ssc.....its already getting addictive lol
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tell me about it
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26th August 2008, 20:39
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Originally Posted by dannygti
ryan, yu are feeling the same as G but i wouldnt be to disheartened as youre and his will be very very exiting engines. although for outright pace boost is best bang for buck ive learned.
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I went NA as i prefer NA... I prefer the power delivery it will give and the noise lol!
alhough that noise will be the end of me due to the fooking noise limits coming down at alot of places
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26th August 2008, 20:45
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Originally Posted by Ryan
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the power delivery cant be that much different in a s/c vts...... the more you rev the faster you go
tbh t/b's do sound the bollocks, but i think i will enjoy the whine from a rotex more tho
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26th August 2008, 20:51
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lol nah i prefer the howling.
Id deffo go for a SC over a turbo though purely for the wider powerspread (in theory)
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26th August 2008, 21:53
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oh dear!!
How this thread has degenerated.
The simple fact is with the right amount of money you can get 300bhp.
Question is how much are you prepared to spend?
Rather than chasing power build a good balanced car with a budget in mind.
The bigger picture is that big power needs other areas looking at, from tyres, driveshafts to gearboxes and clutches.
Gearbox choice is often down to mechanical sympathy and how the car is driven. Sitting spinning wheels off the line puts massive stresses on the drivetrain.
Fancy gearboxes like Hewland sound great on paper but for a road car are unrealistic. Yes they are stronger but they need more looking after to keep them in tip top condition. You tend to not have a synchromech either so regular checking of the gear teeth is a must.
Where is the car going to be used? track or road or both? On track big bhp does not make you the fastest. Look at my 205 for example. BHP is going to be a mild 200ish bhp, but i've spent a fortune on suspension to make sure i can use that power to its maximum. Don't be obsessed with big figures to look good amongst the peers
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