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11th March 2009, 10:17
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Originally Posted by dj_russell
has anyone on here actually been or seen a 180 in action? theres no way mine is only running 140bhp ive done an r32 golf now and set a race with my mates wrx the weekend ill video it. but theres no way its running such amount of small brake as my zs 180 could havce it.
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why not get some pics up of this mystical 180bhp vts you have then, show us all data you have to proove the figures 
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11th March 2009, 10:22
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Originally Posted by dj_russell
has anyone on here actually been or seen a 180 in action? theres no way mine is only running 140bhp ive done an r32 golf now and set a race with my mates wrx the weekend ill video it. but theres no way its running such amount of small brake as my zs 180 could havce it.
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Which thottle boddies do you have?
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11th March 2009, 10:23
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Didn't Craig have a lad engine? Hence saxo_180? Doesn't make anywhere near that.
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11th March 2009, 11:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dj_russell
has anyone on here actually been or seen a 180 in action? theres no way mine is only running 140bhp ive done an r32 golf now and set a race with my mates wrx the weekend ill video it. but theres no way its running such amount of small brake as my zs 180 could havce it.
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anyone who knows anything about a saxo engine knows there is no way that with the work done by LAD it can make the power quoted.
Do you think people spend several K to get to 180+ on bodies for the sheer fun of it when they could get lad to do it by adjusting the cam timing and a mild bit of headwork?? lol!
craig had a 180 conversion and it made shit power.
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11th March 2009, 11:44
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Originally Posted by JamesP
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taken from the LAD site lol, where the power figures shown will be that of LADs rolling road.
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11th March 2009, 11:48
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ive heard rumors of a san remo model , apparently on 50 ever made , but they were 160bph standard . . . .
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11th March 2009, 11:54
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There are no quicker vts's ever made. I believe Viper spoke to Citroen direct and has an e-mail to confirm this. Marketing ploy by companies that should be embarrassed by these ridiculous claims.
Longman do a conversion for the 206 gti.
http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evoc...t_206_gti.html
£5,500 worth of work. 53bhp which needs throttle boddies. Lad are claiming a similar rise without. That just doesn't work.
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11th March 2009, 11:56
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Danr
There are no quicker vts's ever made. I believe Viper spoke to Citroen direct and has an e-mail to confirm this. Marketing ploy by companies that should be embarrassed by these ridiculous claims.
Longman do a conversion for the 206 gti.
http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evoc...t_206_gti.html
£5,500 worth of work. 53bhp which needs throttle boddies. Lad are claiming a similar rise without. That just doesn't work. |
The San remo was commisioned by a garage in manchester to try and boost sales, it was as stated nothing related to citroen direct other than that it was sold by one dealer who got them 'made'
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11th March 2009, 16:50
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talked to my mate at work today. he says there "saxo vts EVO 180" am gonna do some reserch now and see what i can find
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11th March 2009, 16:51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Add91289
talked to my mate at work today. he says there "saxo vts EVO 180" am gonna do some reserch now and see what i can find
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Thats the one we have been on about. Its all bollox
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11th March 2009, 16:57
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dark blue with gold wheels?
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11th March 2009, 17:15
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11th March 2009, 17:41
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Originally Posted by williamsvts
are you not on about the saxo vts remo or something?
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Yeah the saxo vts San Remo was ment to built to a spec of 160bhp. Might be what your thinking about mate.
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11th March 2009, 17:42
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Why go do research when we have allready told you that the LAD cars were the ones, there was no official special edition and none made 180bhp!!!!!!
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11th March 2009, 18:04
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Just to be completely clear....
How *exactly* will the stock 220cc injectors supply enough fuel to make 180bhp?
If they were FLAT OUT OPEN they would lean out at that power level.
It's a lie - a total fabrication. It's walking the thin line between called something a "Saxo 180" and saying "it has 180bhp".
They call it the "Saxo 180" because that's its name!! NOT because it makes that bhp, or even COULD make that bhp! It's simple impossible!
Andy
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11th March 2009, 18:21
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Originally Posted by luthor1
Just to be completely clear....
How *exactly* will the stock 220cc injectors supply enough fuel to make 180bhp?
If they were FLAT OUT OPEN they would lean out at that power level.
It's a lie - a total fabrication. It's walking the thin line between called something a "Saxo 180" and saying "it has 180bhp".
They call it the "Saxo 180" because that's its name!! NOT because it makes that bhp, or even COULD make that bhp! It's simple impossible!
Andy
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Totally agree (awaits the guy to say hes doing even more research lol)
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11th March 2009, 18:24
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Originally Posted by fossie
(awaits the guy to say hes doing even more research lol)
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*sniggers*
Whats even more comical is how someone expects the standard cams to give enough valve lift/duration for 180bhp when everyone is going and spending money on catcam 708s to make 150-155...
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11th March 2009, 18:32
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ive emailed lad now, i dont really know alot about saxos but i want to find out what they have to say.
my cars got over 6 grands worth of recipts for it and on quite a few they claim my car is running 180bhp and on another sheet it says 185bhp. it seriously must be making at least 160bhp with the mods its got id of thought. its pissing me off now some point i shall get it on the rr. ill try and scan all there paperwork up its got a folder full. deffo is not on tbs though.
ill post the pics up of my car in the car thread.
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11th March 2009, 18:33
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*awaits eric to join sax-p*
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