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27th April 2009, 19:05
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Yeah saxp is a very valuble source of info for me, iv gained loads from being a member here and i know i should just go and buy a piper 3inch and fit it myself just worried it wont hang right or ill mess it up! (Even though there is not much to mess up lol!).
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27th April 2009, 19:06
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#42
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Forum Section Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Liverpool
Posts: 15,517
Car(s): Saxo VTR
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Originally Posted by Mr_X
so... you can listen to the established knowledgeable members or get a powerflow.
they are no mixed opinions.
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+1 
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Originally Posted by Ryan
Chipping is generic, so not ideal. hence why people laugh about it on here.
Mapping on the car for the specific mods is what people all want to do.
Superchips are better than a cheap ebay chip, they are reasonably well respected = hence the silly price tags
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I know?
Be honest though, superchips are no where near the best.
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Originally Posted by Macey2009
well i dodnt do the mods!! my car dont look bog standard atleast  has got abit of style to it, not really that interested in power tbh! got a kawasaki zx6rr sitting in the garage! YEAH IM NEW, so give it a ret and get back on topic |
Fair enough mate. Sorry
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27th April 2009, 19:08
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#43
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Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Tonbridge United Kingdom (England)
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Car(s): Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SaXo_vtr123
I know? Be honest though, superchips are no where near the best.
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They are not the best, but they are not the worst thing out there, like i said in the post you quoted 
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27th April 2009, 19:09
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#44
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Saxperience Forum Bum
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Chester
Posts: 2,850
Car(s): 1275 mini
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ive got a piper on mine, it fits the bumper perfectly. theres no way you can mess it up really, same goes for most exhausts that you can buy
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27th April 2009, 19:09
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#45
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Join Date: Jun 2008
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superchips charge you £250 or there abouts to flash a generic map onto your ecu. (copy and pasting mapping) i can tell you this as ive seen there map. they basically advance you ignition timing by 1.5 degees at the top end and increase fueling. it does next to nothing for your car tbh
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27th April 2009, 19:10
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#46
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Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Liverpool
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Car(s): Saxo VTR
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan
They are not the best, but they are not the worst thing out there, like i said in the post you quoted |
Ebay chips ftl 
But given the choice i would go down the live remap route.
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27th April 2009, 19:10
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#47
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Join Date: Jun 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gaz4399
ive got a piper on mine, it fits the bumper perfectly. theres no way you can mess it up really, same goes for most exhausts that you can buy
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agreed its a clamp and some rubber hangars. easy as and it will take you about 20 mins to fit
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27th April 2009, 19:10
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#48
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Pontefract
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Car(s): 2010 E92 320i MSport
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If you just have a quick search on ebay and you can see some of the systems for sale, alot of the pipework isnt mandrel bent so reduces performance. Also I have seen a lot of systems that crack and fail after a year and as mentioned the certain franchises get out of fixing it for free and charge more for a botched repair.
People who have been to Demon Tweeks always rave about the quality so theyre one of the better ones, the local ones round here are all terrible.
Ask to see examples of their work, also £155 seems quite expensive for just a backbox.
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Originally Posted by vtrjay
Mate i really recommend them mate i went down too demon tweaks last friday and had one fitted was £150 fitted and after a few days it has gone so nice noise from it and it sits perfect!!!
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Hahaha! Your eyes are fucked!
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27th April 2009, 19:11
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#49
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Frome, down deepest, darkest zummerset
Posts: 12,971
Car(s): VTRallye
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id rather get bummed by 2 horses than fit a poweflow exhaust....
"once you've had powerflow, you dont go back"
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27th April 2009, 19:11
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#50
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Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Tonbridge United Kingdom (England)
Posts: 38,236
Car(s): Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SaXo_vtr123
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Standalone first then mapping for me. If I was modifying a car fully again engine wise id do the ecu at the time of 'mapping'
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27th April 2009, 19:11
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#51
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Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Liverpool
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Car(s): Saxo VTR
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Josh, it doesnt sit too badly, i have seen a lot worse. But not perfect imo
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27th April 2009, 19:12
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#52
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Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Liverpool
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Car(s): Saxo VTR
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan
Standalone first then mapping for me. If I was modifying a car fully again engine wise id do the ecu at the time of 'mapping'
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*Absorbs wisdom from Ryan*
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27th April 2009, 19:14
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#53
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Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Tonbridge United Kingdom (England)
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Car(s): Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SaXo_vtr123
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Its a slightly higher start up cost, but allows alot more freedom in the long run, and if you change your mind its cheaper than getting an OE ecu mapped each time really.
Espec when saxo owners are lucky now to have a very competitively priced ecu with andys predator
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27th April 2009, 19:22
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#54
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: uk
Posts: 609
Car(s): 2001 mk2
Silver Saxo VTS
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You can always have the sportx or the other one they ALL HAVE ON THIS FORUM.. Power-flow has never let me down...and the one i have is very good and the car performance is better than before...
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27th April 2009, 19:25
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#55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by waynaldo1
You can always have the sportx or the other one they ALL HAVE ON THIS FORUM.. Power-flow has never let me down...and the one i have is very good and the car performance is better than before... |
do you not listen? everyone who has experience with modding saxos for a while has just said the opposite to what you have. and did you do a before and after dyno run when you had your exhaust fitted?
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27th April 2009, 19:27
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#56
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Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Tonbridge United Kingdom (England)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by waynaldo1
You can always have the sportx or the other one they ALL HAVE ON THIS FORUM.. Power-flow has never let me down...and the one i have is very good and the car performance is better than before... |
sportex are shite to IMO. I have an exhaust no one else has on this forum, so thats not ALL having the same is it, yet im still saying be wary of powerflow
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27th April 2009, 19:27
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#57
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Car(s): 2001 mk2
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POWER-FLOW.. will always be my choice ov exhaust.. Ii like everything about them from the sound to how my car performs wiv them...
They are defo not cheap metal...
Someone mention listen to the ppl on the forum lol...funny.. Do what you want and what you like... But i would recommend them...
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27th April 2009, 19:28
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#58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan
sportex are shite to IMO. I have an exhaust no1 has on this forum, so thats not ALL |
is it top secret? or can you tell us? ive never seen a sportex tbh
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27th April 2009, 19:29
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#59
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Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Tonbridge United Kingdom (England)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by waynaldo1
POWER-FLOW.. will always be my choice ov exhaust.. Ii like everything about them from the sound to how my car performs wiv them...
They are defo not cheap metal...
Someone mention listen to the ppl on the forum lol...funny.. Do what you want and what you like... But i would recommend them...
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Are you actually reading my posts? Its a franchise, therefore not ALL are built to the same standard.
PS - text talk 
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27th April 2009, 19:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by waynaldo1
POWER-FLOW.. will always be my choice ov exhaust.. Ii like everything about them from the sound to how my car performs wiv them...
They are defo not cheap metal...
Someone mention listen to the ppl on the forum lol...funny.. Do what you want and what you like... But i would recommend them...
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no educating some people, good luck with super chipping your car aswell
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